Max 26 front bucket weight ?

[nosurprise]

Anyone know the weight of the 26 max front bucket. Looking to purchase ssqa pallet forks. One weighs 320 the other is 82 lbs. lighter. The brand that weighs more is actually about 150 cheaper. I'm trying to justify spending the extra money on the lighter forks.

 

[s219]

Unless you knowingly want to reduce your capacity by 82#, wouldn't the lighter forks make more sense? Especially on a small tractor you should be counting your pounds when it comes to capacity.

The Max has a strong loader, perhaps too strong for such a small tractor. The weak link is not the loader, it's the small footprint of the tractor. So be careful lifting/moving heavy loads. Will 82# matter, or tip you over the edge? That's probably the objective way to look at it.

 

[nosurprise]

Unless you knowingly want to reduce your capacity by 82#, wouldn't the lighter forks make more sense? Especially on a small tractor you should be counting your pounds when it comes to capacity.

The Max has a strong loader, perhaps too strong for such a small tractor. The weak link is not the loader, it's the small footprint of the tractor. So be careful lifting/moving heavy loads. Will 82# matter, or tip you over the edge? That's probably the objective way to look at it.

No just trying to determine if the front bucket weight is close to the 310 lbs. 310 is the weight of the heavier forks

Anyone know the weight of the 26 max front bucket. Looking to purchase ssqa pallet forks. One weighs 320 the other is 82 lbs. lighter. The brand that weighs more is actually about 150 cheaper. I'm trying to justify spending the extra money on the lighter forks.

 

[mike69440]

The Bucket weight is about 135 lbs on a Max28 Pin on bucket. It is a relatively small flimsy bucket. I added about 40 lbs of reinforcement.

I'd go with the lighter forks. The loader curl capability is not well matched to its impressive lift spec and curl force is important with pallets.

 

[nosurprise]

The Bucket weight is about 135 lbs on a Max28 Pin on bucket. It is a relatively small flimsy bucket. I added about 40 lbs of reinforcement.

I'd go with the lighter forks. The loader curl capability is not well matched to its impressive lift spec and curl force is important with pallets.

Thanks I will take your advice. I did not realize the bucket is so light. I agree the curl does not seem to match up well to the lift. Even with the small bucket if I go in deep with the bucket it will not curl out with a full bucket unless you back out. But as far as power curling through it, forget it. Maybe raising system pressure and relief adjustments will help. Not sure, I just expected a little more out of it. I am convinced that it is not performing per literature specs though. Thanks for the input.

 

[RNeumann]

Weak Loader Curl Possible Solution For the Max28

Weak Loader Curl Possible Solution For the Max28

Don't know if you have seen this thread or not- food for thought regarding your loader curl.

 

[mike69440]

Weak Loader Curl Possible Solution For the Max28

Weak Loader Curl Possible Solution For the Max28

Don't know if you have seen this thread or not- food for thought regarding your loader curl.

Seen it, Heck I'm the guy! 1526 curl cylinders really make this a fine little digger. I just hope the loader frame can handle the extra oomph!

 

[nosurprise]

Weak Loader Curl Possible Solution For the Max28

Weak Loader Curl Possible Solution For the Max28

Don't know if you have seen this thread or not- food for thought regarding your loader curl.

Yes, thanks for the link to the thread. After inspection of the max 28 loader it appears to be a little more stout than that on the new 26 curved model. Do you know if anyone sales upgraded cylinders fitted for the max 28 and 26. Also, is raising system pressure and relief adjustments working for anyone out there. I don't think I would attempt a job like Mike did to his 28, wish there was a shop here that does the 1526 cylinder upgrade. Any shop recommendations in the SE part of the country? Alabama, FL, GA. Thanks for any input.

 

[mike69440]

The Max 26 loader uses 3/4" or 19mm or 20mm pins. I'm not sure of the exact size. in any case they are smaller than the MAX28 or 1526.

So to use the 1526 Cylinders, you would either have to open up or cut off and weld on new bushings or make a sleeve so the smaller pins would work.
At that point it may be more cost effective to try to modify a set of 1.5" bore cylinders with 3/4" dia pin ends for the correct retract extend distance.
The Max28 curl cylinders were a piece of cake and a fraction of the cost vs. doing the rebuild of the BH swing cylinders on my L39 and upsized the L39 Loader Cylinders. The L39 BH swing cylinders got damaged, and the loader cylinders were starting to get blow by after 2000 hours of hard use, so rather than just rebuild them, I modified the loader by increasing the cylinder bore sizes just 5mm. The Loader on the L39 is really stout, I just need to be careful with the front axle. The L39 needs both its wheel weights and the BH for counter weight. There are not to many CUT sized tractors that can lift near two tons on a pallet.

 

[nosurprise]

The Max 26 loader uses 3/4" or 19mm or 20mm pins. I'm not sure of the exact size. in any case they are smaller than the MAX28 or 1526.

So to use the 1526 Cylinders, you would either have to open up or cut off and weld on new bushings or make a sleeve so the smaller pins would work.
At that point it may be more cost effective to try to modify a set of 1.5" bore cylinders with 3/4" dia pin ends for the correct retract extend distance.
The Max28 curl cylinders were a piece of cake and a fraction of the cost vs. doing the rebuild of the BH swing cylinders on my L39 and upsized the L39 Loader Cylinders. The L39 BH swing cylinders got damaged, and the loader cylinders were starting to get blow by after 2000 hours of hard use, so rather than just rebuild them, I modified the loader by increasing the cylinder bore sizes just 5mm. The Loader on the L39 is really stout, I just need to be careful with the front axle. The L39 needs both its wheel weights and the BH for counter weight. There are not to many CUT sized tractors that can lift near two tons on a pallet.

Yes I think it is 20mm pins either way that makes it a more complicated fit. Before you swapped cylinders by chance did you try raise system and relief pressure? I see you used a washer to shim. Was that post cylinder swap or before? If before was there a noticeable difference?

2 tons lift on the L39? Good grief that things in beast mode.

Yes, thanks for the link to the thread. After inspection of the max 28 loader it appears to be a little more stout than that on the new 26 curved model. Do you know if anyone sales upgraded cylinders fitted for the max 28 and 26. Also, is raising system pressure and relief adjustments working for anyone out there. I don't think I would attempt a job like Mike did to his 28, wish there was a shop here that does the 1526 cylinder upgrade. Any shop recommendations in the SE part of the country? Alabama, FL, GA. Thanks for any input.

 

[mike69440]

Yes I think it is 20mm pins either way that makes it a more complicated fit. Before you swapped cylinders by chance did you try raise system and relief pressure? I see you used a washer to shim. Was that post cylinder swap or before? If before was there a noticeable difference?

2 tons lift on the L39? Good grief that things in beast mode.

The washer raised the Pressure to about 2300 psig, I dialed back the relief on the loader to 2150-2200 PSI, about 100 psi over spec.

That got the loader lift feeling like it was actually the 1400 Lbs Mahindra states in their specs. The 45mm Lift cylinders are a large as any tractor you will find that size.

The curl force just did not match what the loader would lift. Like you stated, drive into a pile and it would not curl the bucket, unless you backed out, not just a bit, but a lot.

I'd say the ideal match would be 1.5" Curl cylinders, up from 35mm. As the Rod is 25mm, there is only a 5mm annular area acting to curl the bucket.

The 40 MM cylinders from the 1526 loader are slower acting, especially in the dump mode. Still I consider the trade off in my favor.
The Loader and 3pt hitch capacity on my Max are as much as the tractor's frame can handle, and I'm sure an abusive operator would damage the tractor. The Max is small enough to get into Paddocks, Sheds and Barns, while still big enough to do the land engagement and loader work on our small farm. a real labor saver to be sure. Other than precision close quarters loader work, the shuttle shift is excellent, as it takes on hills and roads well.
The Max Shuttle is much better shifting gears than the 3X2 straight gear old Kubota I had. Other than snow removal, firewood, heavy pallets, and landscaping work, my L39 and excavator can have an easier life as the Max is the go to "chore tractor".

 

[mike69440]

How to increase the Max 26 FEL capacity for SSQA /Pallet Forks, etc.

Thinking a little more about this it is not so bad.

Use the Rods from your existing Max26 cylinders.

Buy just the Gland and, piston and seals kits from the Curl Cylinders of the 1526 Loader, with 40 mm bore.
Mahindra PN is KMW31502148 for the entire cylinder.

Have a hydraulic shop fabricate a new pair of tubes, duplicating the length of the Max26 Cylinder tubes.

Cut off the tube pin ends on the existing Max26 Tube cylinder weld them to the new tubes and assemble the "new cylinders."

The new cylinders should fit perfect and you should have more than 2,000 lbs of Breakout/ curl force.

Glands, seals and pistons are also available from:
Hydraulic cylinder repair seals and kits-Hercules Sealing Products - Hydraulic Seals and replacement cylinders for construction and many other heavy equipment industries.
they have good prices, but for a few dollars I'd stay with the Mahindra parts particularly the Piston, just for proper fit.

 

[nosurprise]

Re: How to increase the Max 26 FEL capacity for SSQA /Pallet Forks, etc.

Thinking a little more about this it is not so bad.

Use the Rods from your existing Max26 cylinders.

Buy just the Gland and, piston and seals kits from the Curl Cylinders of the 1526 Loader, with 40 mm bore.
Mahindra PN is KMW31502148 for the entire cylinder.

Have a hydraulic shop fabricate a new pair of tubes, duplicating the length of the Max26 Cylinder tubes.

Cut off the tube pin ends on the existing Max26 Tube cylinder weld them to the new tubes and assemble the "new cylinders."

The new cylinders should fit perfect and you should have more than 2,000 lbs of Breakout/ curl force.

Glands, seals and pistons are also available from:
Hydraulic cylinder repair seals and kits-Hercules Sealing Products - Hydraulic Seals and replacement cylinders for construction and many other heavy equipment industries.
they have good prices, but for a few dollars I'd stay with the Mahindra parts particularly the Piston, just for proper fit.

That sounds like an excellent idea. I appreciate your guidance on this. It doesn't sound too difficult going the route you suggested. Thanks for the link. I'm going to contact some hydraulic shops now. I'll keep you posted here as this goes on. Thanks Mike 69440