Man killed trying to separate PTO shaft with tractor

[CobyRupert]

Derailing this thread a bit farther:

"Flipping" versus "rolling"
Sometimes they can be synonyms.
....but if your a gymnast, an aerial skier, or pool diver, they are NOT synonyms.

Context is important. Example: "Going around the turn, the top heavy truck flipped into the ditch." This likely means it rolled on its side.

If you're PULLING something with a tractor that causes the tractor to "flip", it's hard to imagine that it rolled over on it's side; or did anything but flip backwards.

 

[k0ua]

Derailing this thread a bit farther:

"Flipping" versus "rolling"
Sometimes they can be synonyms.
....but if your a gymnast, an aerial skier, or pool diver, they are NOT synonyms.

Context is important. Example: "Going around the turn, the top heavy truck flipped into the ditch." This likely means it rolled on its side.

If you're PULLING something with a tractor that causes the tractor to "flip", it's hard to imagine that it rolled over on it's side; or did anything but flip backwards.

Bet a dollar he was hooked to the tractor side somewhere other than the drawbar under the chassis of the tractor. Something like the top hole of the top link. (yes I have seen idiots do that) or maybe one of those 3 point "drawbars" with it raised up or who knows. I have hooked chains to immovable objects and the drawbar and have never ever raised my tractors front end off of the ground. I don't think it is possible on my tractor unless you do something very stupid. On that old high wheel Oliver if you hook up high it is VERY possible. No ROPS to save you either. I am not a fan of old high wheel tricycle unsafe tractors.

If the PTO shaft was twisted so that it was wedged together anyway, what would you do with it if you did manage to pull it apart? it would still be useless junk.

 

[MossRoad]

I regularly recall safety related things I read here on TBN when I am operating my tractor, chainsaw or whatever. I cannot tell you how many times. Safety awareness saves lives and that is why many of us want to learn by understanding what happened.

Me too. However, you're only going to find the details in a detailed accident report, not a news story, for many reasons. One being the story comes out as soon as it's known, and accident investigation/reconstruction takes time, so you won't get that in a news story that's produced within hours of an incident. You'll have to wait for a detailed accident report, if it's ever done. It might be so clear to the sherif, family, insurance, parties involved, etc..., that no further investigation will ever be done.

 

[MossRoad]

Bet a dollar he was hooked to the tractor side somewhere other than the drawbar under the chassis of the tractor. Something like the top hole of the top link. (yes I have seen idiots do that) or maybe one of those 3 point "drawbars" with it raised up or who knows. I have hooked chains to immovable objects and the drawbar and have never ever raised my tractors front end off of the ground. I don't think it is possible on my tractor unless you do something very stupid. On that old high wheel Oliver if you hook up high it is VERY possible. No ROPS to save you either. I am not a fan of old high wheel tricycle unsafe tractors.

If the PTO shaft was twisted so that it was wedged together anyway, what would you do with it if you did manage to pull it apart? it would still be useless junk.

The shaft sections might not have been twisted, and just rusted together. I'll avoid the speculation of what exactly happened, as it's just a guess, however, you're guess probably has pretty good odds as to what happened. If I had to make a bet, between that and other choices, I'd pick that.

Anyhow, the man is dead. Thoughts to his family and friends.

 

[Jstpssng]

Just for future reference; hooking onto the front and pulling backwards is one way to avoid this kind of accident.

 

[two_bit_score]

What drama was stressed in this story?

It was pretty clear and concise.

It could have been a much better article if the reporter would have said why it turned over. In fairness to them they probably had no idea that bit of information would be so necessary to TBN readers.


TBS

 

[MossRoad]

It could have been a much better article if the reporter would have said why it turned over. In fairness to them they probably had no idea that bit of information would be so necessary to TBN readers.


TBS

Who was on the scene to make that qualified determination?

 

[two_bit_score]

Me too. However, you're only going to find the details in a detailed accident report, not a news story, for many reasons. One being the story comes out as soon as it's known, and accident investigation/reconstruction takes time, so you won't get that in a news story that's produced within hours of an incident. You'll have to wait for a detailed accident report, if it's ever done. It might be so clear to the sherif, family, insurance, parties involved, etc..., that no further investigation will ever be done.

I regret the lost opportunity the station had to do a better report on tractor safety. I'm sure this is not the only time they have covered an accident of overturned tractors. Many lives could be saved by better awareness of the cause of these accidents.


TBS

 

[two_bit_score]

Who was on the scene to make that qualified determination?

Doesn't matter. That should be the reporters job.

Who
What
When
Where
WHY


My high school journalism class discussed that many times.



TBS

 

[buckeyefarmer]

It's like the other thread on TBN a few days ago from the guy who added a lot of weight ABOVE the center of gravity on his tractor then "accidently" rolled it over (on what looked like relatively flat ground) and has no clue what happened.

Must have missed that thread. I did read one a few days ago where a guy put his tractor on it's side because he hit a hidden obstacle on a slope. He knew why it happened, since he explained it......

I separated a pto shaft once, not too many yrs ago, by chaining to a tree and pulling with the tractor. I now keep all pto shafts inside, out of the weather.