Mahindra 6000 w/ Bradco 511 BH

[Latheman]

Here is a posting from Clyde posted 9-28-04. You might want to take a look a the complete thread. It mentions the heating problem.

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I wanted/needed(a considerable use for), a frame mount backhoe versus a 3 pt hookup backhoe. I turned to Woods Equipment out of Oregon, IL to see if they could do something to help me out. They realized long before my inquiry that Mahindra was a leader in the import tractor "race" and they were willing to help me out if I could bring my tractor down to them for an agreed period of time and use my tractor as a template for the 4500 series. They fitted the 9000 backhoe mated to a CAD created mounting attachment. This is an awesome and solid "groundbreaking" backhoe that does not have to take a backseat to anything else on the market. No backhoe can upseat dynamite in rock but this "buster" comes darn close. I've used it, beat it, and it has been awesome. I'm not an employee, investor, or a relative of anyone associcated with Wood's, and get no residuals. If you are serious - look at this one. )</font>

 

[Slippy]

Tim:
I have used my 511 on my 6000 all day long and not had any over heating problem. My dealer told me when I bought it that if I was going to be running it all day long, day-in-and-day-out, I should spend the money for the pto pump. Other wise, try it and see how it works. Like I said, I have done that and it works great. I have done some ditching along a road that was almost all rock, and the backhoe did not miss a beat. You can control the speed of the swing arm side to side, and I have mine turned almost all the way down, or toward slow. It also runs fast enough for me when digging. Where I could use some more speed is in the dumping and resetting for next dig. However, it really is not that big of a deal. If I were making a living doing it, yea, I might think about the pump, other wise, I'll take that 600 beans and put it toward something else.
The thing is, you can always add the pump later if you think you need it. If you never have really run a hoe before, I think you will find that you don't need it.
Regarding the hose change, yes, at least on mine, I have to disconnect the hose at the FEL braket that provides the hyd to the lift arms on the 3pt hitch. It really is no big deal, it takes all of 30 seconds to do. They are quick connect. Disconnect one hose and put it on a dummy connector, remove the hose from the dummy connecter put it where you took the other one off. You also plug two hoses in the rear hyd., one is feed and the other return. I back up to it, connect my hoses, and use the hyd on the hoe to make some fine adjustments in the line up, drop the pins and off you go.
I have the 6000. On mine I have to take the arms off that act as the check chains on the 3pt arms. One pin and one nut on each arm. That takes the longest. Don't know if they have made mod that now eliminates the necessity of doing that. Anyone know?
One more thing. I'm not sure about this, but I think I recall that the 11 gpm is combined with the hyd for the steering. Therefore, you don't actually get all 11gpm for the hoe even thought the specs list 11gpm. Some of that is occupied by the power steering, ... I think. Can someone help here?
But bottom line, it still works great!

 

[Tim_in_IA]

Slippy,

I see what you mean about the steering. For the 00 series it just lists that it is hydrostatic. For the 7520 it lists that it is hydrostatic and also that the pump is 5.2 gpm, hence the 7520 has a seperate pump. I wonder though since you aren't steering while operating the backhoe if this would have any effect as no load would be in place for the steering system?

Could anyone with a 511 setup post some close up pictures of how it connects? It would be great to see a comparison between the pto and non pto configurations.

 

[Tim_in_IA]

Came across these pictures from an earlier poster for the 4110 and a 511 hoe.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Board/mahindra/Number/212516/page/11/view/collapsed/sb/5/o/all/fpart/1/vc/1

Hopefully that link works! It shows the 4 point mount and also appears that the person was using the onboard hydraulics and connecting them to the rear remotes.

 

[LarryRB]

yeah, that is my tractor. that was about the time that TBN lost the server,. I came back as an unlisted poster..

 

[johnsonauto]

They also make a piggy back tank if you run off the tractor hydraulics, goes between the tractor and backhoe allowing for additional hydraulic capacity to keep the fluid cool, this works well also. But the 511 with that 14gpm pump is still very impressive. It is still impressive with out too, just slower, still has the power. It all depends on what you are use to or expect out of it. Like Slippy said he's not in a rush and is ok with the speed, some people are use to constuction mahines and usually want fast. Either way it a nice hoe.

 

[BobG_in_VA]

Well, since I started this thread, I'll continue. The 511 is in. I'll go by tomorrow and see it. It has the 14GPM PTO pump and came with the 24" bucket. 12" is being shipped separately. Frame mount is there as well. I'll try and get a pic or two, but not sure how to upload here (never done it). More later. BobG in VA

 

[BobG_in_VA]

One more thing. I think I'm gonna switch the PTO over to 1000 rpm and then run it just above idle (maybe 1150 rpm) and see how the pump works. That should be about PTO speed for a 540 (thanks to the cost of diesel). BobG in VA

 

[Slippy]

We will be real interested to see how it hooks up. I know you will like it.

 

[Tim_in_IA]

Just got an email from my dealer. They were able to add the 14gpm pump but they said it would add 900-1000 to the cost. This seems really high so I hope it is a mistake. Or it may be that since my bh was already built they had to modify it and rebuild a part or 2 which may have added to the price. I guess it is money well spent up front but ****, was expecting more around the $600 price. Maybe the new england tractor guys could tell me if that price is reasonable? I like the idea about the 1000 rpm and low idle. I had considered that for other attachments as well. That is what the Iowa Farm Bureau is recommending for field work in the high diesel cost era. Highest gear possible and lowest rpm for the task, smallest tractor necessary for the job. Will keep you guys posted!

 

[BobG_in_VA]

After going and seeing the 511 yesterday, the dealer advised that the 14GPM pump is a "3 to 1". I probably won't need to switch to 1000rpm as the gearing increase will be sufficient to run it at low rpm anyway. We'll see. Also, brought the frame mounts home with me. Took two mules and a donkey to pick them up and set them in the garage. I'm doing all the set up myself, so I'm gonna be an expert when I'm done (or one sorry puppy). BobG in VA

 

[LarryRB]

I ran mine most of the time "just off idle" and it did whatever I wanted,, I would never even think about running that pump at 1000 PTO set and at idle,,,

 

[Slippy]

It does not take alot of rpm's for me to run mine off the tractor. I'd say aroung 1000 to 1200 rpm usually.

 

[Slippy]

By the way, does anyone have a quick attach set up for the bucket? I have used my 12" the large majority of the time, and sometimes because of the time it takes to pull the pin and change the bucket. If so, is it worth it?

 

[BobG_in_VA]

Larry, as you may know the 6000 has somewhat more "grunt" at 1200 rpm than most as the redline is only about 2000. I've never had to go above 1800rpm with a 7 ft cutter behind it in "wheel top" height stuff and that's in 4th gear (out of 8). It idles at 850rpm or so. Trust me if the pump was a 1 to 1 ratio, I would be using the 1000 rpm PTO to turn it as it would take 2000 rpm to run at 540 otherwise. BobG in VA who also has about a 1000 pieces/hydraulic stuff to sort and put together as well as the frame mount.

 

[BobG_in_VA]

You guys that have the 511 on the 00 series tractors: How well does the three point arms (lower links) swing with the frame mounts in place? It appears that they will be hampered somewhat with the frame mounts there. I called Bradco today and an engineer (Jason) advised that they would be OK and you can hook up CAT 2 stuff (32") but there isn't much "swing" room. Hope the rotary cutter has enough swing once its on there. Also, looks like a pain to do, if you don't take off the rear wheels (since they weigh about 800 lbs each with fluid) but I'm gonna try as Jason said it could be done. He's a decent dude and told me to give him a call on his private extension if I had any more questions. BobG in VA