Mahindra 4035 Price Check

[justinramani]

Hello,

I just came back from meeting with a local Mahindra dealer. He has offered to sell me his last new 4035 HST for $29,000 with a 6' standard duty rotary cutter, pallet forks, brush guard, loaded rear wheels, sales tax, delivery, 3.99% interest for 84 months. What do y'all think? I feel like I could get the new model 4530 for the same price. The 4530 has a few more HP and a better loader capacity, but is shuttle shift (I'm sure he could track down a HST for a few more dollars).

Am I getting a "good" deal? The dealer is local and is the only one who has told me that they don't charge customers anything extra to conduct on site repairs or to transport the tractor back to their location if the repair is more serious. I find that to be valuable because I do not have a truck/trailer large enough to transport a tractor of this size. It also just seems more convenient. They have only been selling Mahindra for about 8 months, but he told me that they signed a 5yr contract with Mahindra - not sure if thats true or not. He also told me that their contracts specifically allow early repayment of loans - I'm pretty sure that I read on TBN that Mahindra finance does not allow early repayment..... Im confused about that....

My only other option is to shell out a few more $$$ for a Kubota MX series. To me the loader capacity is one of the most important features. I will also be doing a lot of clearing overgrowth on our property. The Mahindra dealer feels confident that the Standard Duty 6' rotary cutter will fit the bill. He also said that the cutter has a 5yr warranty as well.

Any assistance or advise would be greatly appreciated....

I forgot to add that mahindra has an additional $1,000 in rebates. Price would be a hair over 28k out the door.

Thanks in advance -

Justin

 

[ktoom]

Okay, here's my info from this past Sept. If I remember correctly...

Tractor: 4035HST w loader, R4 loaded tires $27,000.00

Attachments: Land Pride Cutter RCR1872 w/slip clutch & fornt guard $2200
Land Pride Landscape rake w/guage wheels $1400

Insurance premium $1177

This was all before tax. I did the 0% for 84 months. I threw away all my notes from when I went tractor shopping and they had the exact numbers that the dealer quoted me. When I bought my tractor, Mahindra had just done a new price increase. I got my tractor at the old pricing.

I would stay away from the Mahindra attachments as they have major quality issues. Do the research for yourself and ask around and/or dealers.

Have you checked out Safeway Mahindra? I would give them a call... I talked to Max and he was very helpful.

 

[Sysop]

My prices were too old to do you much good, I just wanted to point out the 4530 is not the new model of 4035. It is a model that was developed and sold prior to, as well as along-side the 4035.

The 35 series of premium compacts now have the model numbers reversed for the new tier4 stuff and instead of the 35 coming last, it now comes first. The replacement for the 4035 is the 3540; which with the new model numbering scheme, also gains a cabbed version...

Some of the Mahindra attachments are fine, others have quality control issues. It really isn't solely a Mahindra issue, you can go to tractor supply and other tractor or implement dealers and see the exact same quality control issues with implements of all varying brands. Anyplace you go to buy implements, you better be dealing with someone that will stand by their customer when dealing with the manufacturer on a problem, or you better do your own quality assurance check on the hardware before you leave the dealer's lot. Sometimes when it comes to some of the price breaks you get when purchasing implements with the tractor and financing it all as a lump, it is impossible to come up with a better solution. You just need to know what you are doing and check out each piece of hardware before it is loaded on the truck for delivery. Don't be afraid to take the covers off stuff and ask to have it turned up so you can look under whatever it is. They are there to help.

 

[BSnow]

One other item to point out, as (somewhat) alluded to by the previous post; the new units (3540's) have the additional emission equipment. This adds additional (maybe not extreme) complication / sensitivity to the engine. As for the price ... seems pretty reasonable, as I bought the same unit (TLB) last year. Two cents only.

 

[justinramani]

Ktoom - I have not looked at Safeway Mahindra yet. They have a very good website! It also looks like they have a remaining 5035HST. I think I will ask them what their best price on that unit is. I have heard that Mahindra attachments are not the greatest, but I will get $750 back for getting two.... it might be worth the risk since they have 5 year warranties......

 

[ktoom]

Here's some food for thought and something i forgot to mention. U can finance other brand attachments through Mahindra/Agri-credit. The only catch is that the interest rate goes up a .25% or so per attachment that you add to the loan. Im not sure if this rate goes up or down for certain brand of attachments.

When I bought my tractor, the dealer took my down payment and used some of it to buy one of the attachments. What this did was saved me from adding another attachment to the loan which would have made the interest rate go up to say .50%.

I was going to go with the Mahindra attachments as well. I started getting nervous when the dealers I was talking to said not to go with them for quality reasons. The Mahindra attachments are made by the same company that makes the attachments that tractor supply sells... Go read those reviews.

The biggest peace of advice i can give is to do your home work on the tractor and attachments.

 

[Sysop]

The Mahindra attachments are made by the same company that makes the attachments that tractor supply sells...

If you look at the specs on most of Tractor Supplies implements "Specs" tab, you'll see they're manufactured by Tarter:
Brand - CountyLine
Vendor - Tarter Gate

Kodiak makes all Mahindra's implements.

Not saying one is any better or worse, just that your statement was inaccurate. I personally think on average from everything I've seen, the typical implements seen at most local dealers are all made about the same... I've seen plenty of trash implements and assembly issues on all brands. You can pay extra for one that has been gone over a little closer in the name of quality assurance so you never see the sorts of issues all the manufacturers seem to be plagued with, or you can save a buck and have the requirement to go over the unit you are purchasing before having it delivered and ensure the quality of build yourself.

 

[ktoom]

If you look at the specs on most of Tractor Supplies implements "Specs" tab, you'll see they're manufactured by Tarter:
Brand - CountyLine
Vendor - Tarter Gate

Kodiak makes all Mahindra's implements.

Not saying one is any better or worse, just that your statement was inaccurate. I personally think on average from everything I've seen, the typical implements seen at most local dealers are all made about the same... I've seen plenty of trash implements and assembly issues on all brands. You can pay extra for one that has been gone over a little closer in the name of quality assurance so you never see the sorts of issues all the manufacturers seem to be plagued with, or you can save a buck and have the requirement to go over the unit you are purchasing before having it delivered and ensure the quality of build yourself.

My bad!!! Never really looked into. My dealer had said that statement, but maybe I just mis-construed what he was trying to say.... He was probably meaning to say that the Mahindra attachments quality was similar to what tractor supply sells. I have no experience with Mahindra attachments, so I can't really say much other than what I've seen and red. To me the writing is on the wall if my local dealers won't even stock Mahindra attachments..... but that my own opinion.

 

[oldpilgrim]

I looked at a Mahindra rear blade. It was a real heavy beast compared to TSC's offering......three times the money too.

 

[ktmhans]

I got a 4035 before the first of the year but it was a pst. Hydro is more. Sounds high. But your dealer isn't stupid. He's gettng a premium for his last tier 4 interim motor. When I got mine I could of gotten a 3540 and they are bigger then the 4035. Now they have the same frame as the 50 hp model and same motor, just set at a lower threshold if I remember. Like you said, stronger loader, bigger tires I think. It would of been close to $5000 more for the new model. But you can get it with a cab. I looked at it last week.......

 

[justinramani]

Well I ended up going with the 4035 from my local dealer. I worked it pretty hard over two days removing a concrete perimeter foundation. On the end of the second day I noticed a leak. Called the dealer who sent out a tech same day. Turns out that one of the banjo fittings is bad. He has to order the part - so I'm sidelined for a few days. I put about 15 hours on the tractor. I have to say that the performance is pretty darn impressive.

While I wish the leak had not happened - I was pleased that my dealer had someone out to my place same day to take a look at it. He even gave me a free gallon of hyd fluid.

I really can't imagine not having 4wd. I have already gotten myself into some pretty sticky spots. Between the 4wd and locking diff - the tractor has made it out of everything thus far.

 

[Sysop]

Same as I have, I know they can out the power down and do some work for a fact... Which tranny? Did you get the rear tires loaded? Are you running the R1 AG tires or R4 industrials? I have loaded AGs and an HST, not much I push or pull on that doesn't move.

TBN guidelines also state: pictures or it didn't happen!

 

[justinramani]

Same as I have, I know they can out the power down and do some work for a fact... Which tranny? Did you get the rear tires loaded? Are you running the R1 AG tires or R4 industrials? I have loaded AGs and an HST, not much I push or pull on that doesn't move.

TBN guidelines also state: pictures or it didn't happen!

Sysop,

Sorry for the delayed response. I also have the HST with loaded AG tires. I really love the tractor, but it had been plagued by hydraulic leaks. The dealer has worked on it three times now. I'm sure that they will eventually find a fix, but it has me a little frustrated at the moment!

 

[Sysop]

Sorry to hear that. I only had one leak (improperly seated seal of some sort) that caused my 3pt to stop working the first time I hung weight on it. My dealer had me fixed up over the weekend and the problem hasn't reoccurred. Hydraulic leaks can be a pain.

I know a guy who had a small New Holland a few years back that had a hydraulic leak. He tightened the leaky connection to stop that leak, the leak would appear next week at another connection. He'd tighten it and use the tractor, then another leak would appear at another connection the next time he went to use it. His previous tractor was an old IH and he said he had to do the same with it, he always complained chasing hydraulic leaks was almost a constant thing. Between the pressures of the hydraulics and the vibration of the entire unit when operating, tightening the various connectors that begin to drip are just maintenance at times.

That being said, I'm over 200 hours now and have had no more leaks appear after having the one on the 3pt fixed the weekend after purchase. I think once your dealer gets done chasing the leaks all down and getting everything sealed up good you'll be fine, but the way the pressures of the system can cause a leak to appear in different places as you get other things tightened down, and also the fact that sometimes the other/new leaks don't appear until under load, it can be a pain to track down and eliminate.

Basically, tightening and sealing a leak results in slightly more pressures elsewhere, at times revealing leaks somewhere else. Sometimes it needs ran some under load to reveal the new leaks. It can be time consuming, but that's what warranty is all about.

I would stay in contact with the dealer and try to allow them ample time to go through everything (there are gobs of places for hydraulics to leak). If it seems the dealer is becoming frustrated with it, you could perhaps offer to call MUSA and explain the situation to them, they may be able to send in one of their traveling techs that are amazingly knowledgeable about these units, or find some other solution to the problem. Dealers generally stay in pretty close contact with MUSA on all warranty repairs as MUSA has to provide approval to ensure the dealers get paid on the work, but if both the dealer and the owner are calling about the same unit, MUSA may have more resolution options according to their policies. Discuss it with your dealer and get their thoughts.

I hope they get you fixed up rapidly and to your complete satisfaction. The 4035 is a great unit and well made, it will serve you well once it is done peeing hydro fluid on the ground...

 

[oldpilgrim]

regarding leaks...............

I got my 3016 last summer and this was my first winter with it. After one of the first storms, I noticed fluid coming from a connector of my right main lift cylinder. I tightened it and no more problem. I checked all the other hose connections and found no problems. Probably a worker got distracted when assembling the unit. Then i noticed another leak coming from the same cylinder. After removing it, I saw that it was the weld where the cast 'end cap' is welded to the cylinder 'tube'.

I took it to my dealer who replaced it with no questions asked.

The cylinder was made in China if that's important to anyone.

 

[Sysop]

I'd imagine the source of the cylinders varies a lot.

My KWM built loader and Bradco built backhoe that both came with my 4035 have different cylinders on them. KWM doesn't make all of Mahindra's loaders for all models and Bradco doesn't make all of Mahindra's backhoes, so I'm sure there is even more variances as you extend to other models. Both, KWM and Bradco pride themselves on being "Made in the USA", not sure where they source their materials and parts from though.

I know both have good quality American hoses and come with Made in the USA stickers all over the place and are among the best loaders and hoes available, they have stuff to fit many brands of tractors... I liked the fact both came with complete cylinder rebuild instructions with their respective manuals.

 

[justinramani]

Sorry to hear that. I only had one leak (improperly seated seal of some sort) that caused my 3pt to stop working the first time I hung weight on it. My dealer had me fixed up over the weekend and the problem hasn't reoccurred. Hydraulic leaks can be a pain.

I know a guy who had a small New Holland a few years back that had a hydraulic leak. He tightened the leaky connection to stop that leak, the leak would appear next week at another connection. He'd tighten it and use the tractor, then another leak would appear at another connection the next time he went to use it. His previous tractor was an old IH and he said he had to do the same with it, he always complained chasing hydraulic leaks was almost a constant thing. Between the pressures of the hydraulics and the vibration of the entire unit when operating, tightening the various connectors that begin to drip are just maintenance at times.

That being said, I'm over 200 hours now and have had no more leaks appear after having the one on the 3pt fixed the weekend after purchase. I think once your dealer gets done chasing the leaks all down and getting everything sealed up good you'll be fine, but the way the pressures of the system can cause a leak to appear in different places as you get other things tightened down, and also the fact that sometimes the other/new leaks don't appear until under load, it can be a pain to track down and eliminate.

Basically, tightening and sealing a leak results in slightly more pressures elsewhere, at times revealing leaks somewhere else. Sometimes it needs ran some under load to reveal the new leaks. It can be time consuming, but that's what warranty is all about.

I would stay in contact with the dealer and try to allow them ample time to go through everything (there are gobs of places for hydraulics to leak). If it seems the dealer is becoming frustrated with it, you could perhaps offer to call MUSA and explain the situation to them, they may be able to send in one of their traveling techs that are amazingly knowledgeable about these units, or find some other solution to the problem. Dealers generally stay in pretty close contact with MUSA on all warranty repairs as MUSA has to provide approval to ensure the dealers get paid on the work, but if both the dealer and the owner are calling about the same unit, MUSA may have more resolution options according to their policies. Discuss it with your dealer and get their thoughts.

I hope they get you fixed up rapidly and to your complete satisfaction. The 4035 is a great unit and well made, it will serve you well once it is done peeing hydro fluid on the ground...

Sysop,

My dealer has been great. They come out and fix on site if possible. If not, the will haul it back to their shop. They don't charge me for these extra services. I know that they want to fix the issue as badly as I want it fixed.

I'm really glad that I chose to buy local and from a dealer with good service. I couldn't imagine trying to deal warranty issues with a dealer that was hours away...

 

[Sysop]

It is great to have a good working relationship with your dealer and I in no way would want to advise anything to jeopardize that. All I meant was sometimes MUSA can be slow to respond to dealers when they are having a high volume of calls (this time of year is always high volume). Only with your dealer's blessing would I contact MUSA, it is just sometimes MUSA may be a little prompter at assisting your dealer on your issue (if possible) if you as the owner are contacting them also.

Furthermore, if it does become a time consuming thing and calling MUSA is something you need to do, explain that the dealer is working to your satisfaction to find a resolution but that they also need to be stepping up and assisting your dealer support their product in a timely manner.

 

[justinramani]

It is great to have a good working relationship with your dealer and I in no way would want to advise anything to jeopardize that. All I meant was sometimes MUSA can be slow to respond to dealers when they are having a high volume of calls (this time of year is always high volume). Only with your dealer's blessing would I contact MUSA, it is just sometimes MUSA may be a little prompter at assisting your dealer on your issue (if possible) if you as the owner are contacting them also.

I actually didn't even know that MUSA had mobile teams that could help dealers out on difficult issues. That's good to know. I will keep everyone updated and post some pics soon.

 

[Sysop]

I actually didn't even know that MUSA had mobile teams that could help dealers out on difficult issues. That's good to know. I will keep everyone updated and post some pics soon.

I learned of it when I had my hydraulic issue on my 3pt. My tractor was delivered last thing on a Thursday. I learned of the issue once I removed the backhoe and tried hooking up my brush cutter to drag it out of the driveway. The lift arms lowered fine, but once the cutter was hooked up they wouldn't raise. Took the cutter off and they still wouldn't raise, but would flop around loosely by hand.

Friday the mechanic showed up and was kind of stumped as he had never seen such an issue, and he was somewhat reluctant to just start tearing it apart without calling MUSA first. He took it to the shop and called MUSA and they hadn't had any issues reported but they had a tech that would be passing my area going from PA to GA, but it would mean everyone had to put in Saturday hours (on MUSA's dime). The MUSA tech showed up, tore everything down, found some internal seal that must not have been seated right during assembly. Put it together enough to test, it tested good so they called it a day. The local mechanic completed the reassembly Monday morning and had it back to me by noon.

I was impressed and pleased...