Mahindra 2545 on sand

   / Mahindra 2545 on sand #1  

pripyat

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Sandhills, SC
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Mahindra 2545
I have 45 acres of sand. Nearly all of it has been farmed for the past 50 years at least. We are building a house on the site, we are currently under contract. My #1 priority is to get the driveways set up. We are having to put sand clay over the existing sand to get vehicles in and out due to the lack of any structure or settling of the previously farmed soil. Once we get the clay packed down I'll spread crusher run over top. I've got a box blade, scraper blade, a drag harrow, and a really old, heavy bush hog around 6ft. My dad has a mini excavator, I will be using the tractor to move the piles of sandy muck I dig out of poorly maintained drainage ditches. There is nothing large I need to bush hog, I'll likely borrow my neighbor's finishing mower to cut the around 35 acres of weeds that have grown in the past year since the last harvest. I'd like to get a backhoe attachment for drainage ditches at some point since moving my dad's excavator is a pain. I also need to level the property (from where it has been planted, just a couple inch high mounds for the rows), I plan to use the drag harrow and scraper blade for this. I want Industrial tires so when I plant grass in the future I can navigate around in the yard without destroying anything.

I have used my dad's 1526 to spread sand clay and it did a fine job although it bogged down if I tried to scoop dirt while in M speed. It also was not as effective as it could have been due to traction issues on the sand. Plenty of power but the tractor seemed limited by the amount of traction it had with the ground.

I was looking at Geared 4550's and Shuttle 2445's since they are on sale locally. Being used to the 1526, the 4550 just seems too big for my liking. I love the weight but I feel that it is so big that I wouldn't use it as often or on smaller tasks. I may be wrong but I also am thinking about maneuverability and resale value - I think the smaller frame would be more desirable based on my experience looking at used tractors. Homeowners don't seem to want a massive 4500 series tractor. The 2545 is perfect size wise (I feel like I can see what I'm doing with the loader much better) and is easier to get in and out of.

My concern with the 2545 is that it won't weigh enough to benefit from the added HP. Operating weight of the 1526 is 2459lb, the 2545 is 3285lb. I ran some ballasting calculations and can get 1078lbs with 75% filled tires on the 2545. That is 4363lbs total for the 2545, 1900lbs more than the 1526. I would expect that to make a big difference but I literally drove a tractor for the first time 2 months ago. Any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated.
 
   / Mahindra 2545 on sand #2  
Eh, I bet a 2545 will be awesome! Welcome to TBN, by the way. You've found the right site for detailed tractor questions.

It does sound like you know what you are doing and getting into. Where's your location? Adding a general area to your profile (so that it shows up on the left side under your user name) is a big help for others to know what to recommend for you.

If your dad has a mini-ex that you can safely transport around, do not waste your time with a backhoe attachment. They are extremely expensive and cumbersome to install/remove. Just save up your digging tasks for a solid weekend of fun at a time (what I and many others do with rental machines).

Good luck! P.S. post lots of pictures of your land and equipment, we all love that. :)
 
   / Mahindra 2545 on sand
  • Thread Starter
#3  
I appreciate the reply. You asked for pics..

Here is the digger, clearing a bunch of stumps and trees to make this into a gravel driveway. Still need to spread sand clay and gravel here, waiting on the state to put in the culvert at the top of the hill.
digger.jpg

Learning to spread sand clay. Pile is to the left.
roadbed.jpg

Drainage ditch I poorly dug out with the digger. It apparently hasn't been maintained in a long time - I dropped the water level at least 18" and the culvert is still 6" underwater. Drains good, though. Need to get the digger another weekend and dig it out another 2ft or so.
dugditch.jpg

House is being built in the middle of this field.
homesite.jpg
 
   / Mahindra 2545 on sand #4  
Thanks for the pics! I am a bit curious about the "sand clay". Around here (Michigan) most road bases are made of straight sand. Or at least that's what it looks like, anyway. I would have thought that you could just drop some big rock or crushed concrete atop that native sand and have a pretty solid road base right away.
 
   / Mahindra 2545 on sand
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#5  
The sand clay isn't like the putty or modeling clay texture but it compresses very well. Buying clay (around here) is much different - it doesn't spread easily and clumps together. Without the base, gravel would be lost to the soft sandy soil. Big rock would work OK but is a lot more expensive than the sand clay. Not to mention we would require a LOT of big rock without a decent base. What we're doing is making a base of sand clay a couple inches at $200 per truck load and then going over it with 4" or so of crusher run at $500 per load.
 
   / Mahindra 2545 on sand #6  
Hey Welcome "Neighbor" !

I have similar soil as you, and built our house about 18 months ago. Our land was sand for the 1st 12" of depth, and then red clay below that.

I had to haul in a bunch of sand clay for the drive, just like you. My only suggestion would be to use more than a couple of inches. Try to go at least 6". I know it packs well, but it also washes away pretty easily if exposed to running water.

For your drainage ditch, if your mini-ex will straddle the ditch, try scraping the ditch out with the digger, rather than digging it from side to side. Also, it looks like that ditch will move a bunch of water. Consider (or request the county) to put in a 24" culvert rather than a 12". I had to replace my 12" ones with 24" in order to handle the water. Each 24" = 4-12" in volume. But more importantly 12" plug up with sticks, branches, and other crap. 24" lets it flow right thru for the most part.

As for your tractor, I'd DEFINITELY go with the 2545, rather than smaller model. I love my 2538, (new model is 2638) and you'll have a few more horses.

2 suggestions for moving your sand clay. If possible, have the truck driver tail gate it if he can. If not, you can use your bucket as a bulldozer if you tilt it back towards you all the way, and then push the material in small lifts. This allows the tractor to start compacting the material, and it spreads relatively smooth. Takes a little practice, but after a few passes, it works pretty good. The extra horse power on the 2545 will make this job a lot easier. Same goes for the crush & run.

If you're not getting the cab version of the 2545, think about making a canopy to keep the hot sun off of you. I made one from an old golf cart top, and it's a god-send.
Canopy 1.JPG

Good luck, and keep us posted!
 
   / Mahindra 2545 on sand
  • Thread Starter
#7  
That canopy looks awesome. I have an old Dodge hood I could maybe retrofit.. :rotfl:

That culvert isn't actually county maintained. 30 yards upstream there isn't a ditch at all - Water comes up out the ground. The pile of dirt that was displaced for the original ditch has 8" trees growing out of it. Apparently my wife's grandfather said that the ditch has been there since he was a kid (1940s at least). The top of the culvert was around 2ft under the ground when I started the digging project. I couldn't even find it until I started digging. I wasn't even worried about the drainage ditch until I sunk my truck down to the frame 15yd from the ditch. I got to looking and realized the ditch was originally a lot deeper. I've been recording the groundwater level at a spot about 40 yards from the drainage ditch. It was 22" from the top of the soil to groundwater a month ago, it hasn't been above 27" since I dug the ditch out. I'm eager to see how all this rain we're getting affects it.

Truck stayed in this field for two days before I could get a farmer out there with a tractor big enough to pull it out..

stuck.jpg
 
   / Mahindra 2545 on sand
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#8  
A dealership listed a sale price for 2545's. I called yesterday morning and got confirmation of the price at one of the 4 facilities in NC. The guy told me that any of their 4 dealerships could get the same pricing. I drove up yesterday evening after work to a different but the closest of the 4 facilities and got there 30 minutes prior to closing. Told them I wanted to talk money about a 2545. They told me their financing guy was gone for the day, i'd have to come back.

I call at 8:30am this morning and financing guy quoted a higher price than the sale price. He has to call the sister dealership about the advertised price and get back to me. Calls me at the end of the day. One of the marked down 2545s sold an hour after I spoke to him that morning. There is another 2545 but there is a note in the system to speak to some employee before selling. He isn't sure if the tractor has been loaned out or what.

Im going to be really annoyed if they cant find me one for the price they have publicly listed..
 
   / Mahindra 2545 on sand #9  
Check your private messages. I just gave you a possible alternative dealer.
 
   / Mahindra 2545 on sand
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#10  
Thanks for the PM. I was hoping to hear from that dealership early this morning but haven't heard anything yet. I've been reading a bunch about rear remotes and third functions. I really like what this guy did but that valve is absolutely massive.

https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/customization/384911-swapped-out-fel-valve-got.html

I would rather spend a little more for a smaller 3 spool valve closer to 12gpm or just add another lever altogether. I can't seem to find a similar valve (but smaller) with controls. If anyone has a link for a 3 spool valve just like the guy in the link used but smaller I'd appreciate it.

Otherwise, would adding another lever for grapple be as easy as mounting a single spool lever, running the tank return line from the FEL controls to the additional lever, and then running the tank return from the additional lever to the tank? Or am I missing something? I'm an engineer by trade but know nothing of tractor hydraulics. If this is correct I would be able to use just a single spool lever like below in addition to my FEL lever?

1 Spool 14 GPM Prince WVS11B5C1 DA Valve | Prince Mfg | Brands | www.surpluscenter.com

So I'd be in less than $400, excluding mount, for the extra valve and hydraulic hoses?
 

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