M8560HD12

[M8560HD12 TAMMARC FARM]

Looking to purchase M8560 for 38ac horse farm just for haying/plowing...etc have a NH320 Baler w/ Kicker, 4-Bottom IH Plow and 15FT Cullimulcher - just wondering if anyone had thoughts on 76PTO HP being good enough - i currently use a Oliver 1755 Diesel for this type of work

Also, I am looking at the unit w/ the bucket and 1 Rear Remote - is that enough to run a Hay Bine [NH479] and the NH320 Baler that has hydraulics on kicker, or, would I need a 2nd Float Remote

I am just a weekend Warrior, so my knowledge on what I need on a new tractor is severely limeted

 

[TripleR]

We have an M8540, but know nothing about haying; might check here; good luck.

Haying

 

[The kid]

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[murphy1244]

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[mguitas]

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[xring100]

Looking to purchase M8560 for 38ac horse farm just for haying/plowing...etc have a NH320 Baler w/ Kicker, 4-Bottom IH Plow and 15FT Cullimulcher - just wondering if anyone had thoughts on 76PTO HP being good enough - i currently use a Oliver 1755 Diesel for this type of work

Also, I am looking at the unit w/ the bucket and 1 Rear Remote - is that enough to run a Hay Bine [NH479] and the NH320 Baler that has hydraulics on kicker, or, would I need a 2nd Float Remote

I am just a weekend Warrior, so my knowledge on what I need on a new tractor is severely limeted

Welcome I own an M8540 its a great tractor I don't produce hay. I checked the manual they claim the largest plow you can run up to a 4 bottom plow with 16" bottoms. If you have soft soil or well worked i don't think you will have a problem. I ran a 2 bottom plow with 16" bottoms 10 -12" deep in clay and rocks that had not been turned in the last 25-30 years. It worked the tractor good but i had plenty of power to run 3rd gear at about 3.5 mph. I think the 12 speed would have helped to have a gear in between my 3rd and 4th. I don't think i would not have been able to pull a 3 bottom plow. When we turned the soil in the fall and it pulled the plow in 4th with no problems. The baler should not be a problem, the cultimulcher might be your biggest problem the M9960 might be better suited in terms of power i think they usually call for at least 6 hp/ ft. another question would be weight you would probably need the all the ballast you could get including cast centers and tire ballast.

 

[M8560HD12 TAMMARC FARM]

Dave, thank you for the details! I do have a 3-Bottom, but I have also thought about jumping to the M9960 so I can pull the 4-Bottom - The weight/balance is also a concern so i am going to talk to dealer about weights/balance etc - i was hoping that with the front loader i would be set up front but possible rear wheel weights for balance is needed - will be seeing him tomorrow - I greatly appreciate the feedback as just owning 1969 Oliver 1755 and 1972 IH574, I am learning on the fly with all these specs/options

 

[M8560HD12 TAMMARC FARM]

Thanks TripleR - it was helpful - this website is unreal - I have been flying by seat of my pants for years now and have just been lucky - hoping to learn a lot on this site!

 

[xring100]

No problem with the loader on the front i think you'll be set for weight on the front axle. But i would definitely get the cast centers and liquid ballast. If thats not enough you could always add wheel weights later. I think my 8540 would pull the 4 bottom now that my soil has been broken up. But you probably still need the hp for the cultimultcher. How well does the Oliver handle it?

Dave

 

[M8560HD12 TAMMARC FARM]

No problem with the loader on the front i think you'll be set for weight on the front axle. But i would definitely get the cast centers and liquid ballast. If thats not enough you could always add wheel weights later. I think my 8540 would pull the 4 bottom now that my soil has been broken up. But you probably still need the hp for the cultimultcher. How well does the Oliver handle it?

Dave

I did have the Cast Centers quoted, but I may have to have them fill tires [I assume that's what you mean by Liquid ballast?] The Oliver 1755 [85HP Diesel] pulls that cullimucher quite easily, that's why I was leaning towards the M8560 - I still may just jump to M9960 to cover my behind

 

[TripleR]

Our Case went toes up and we needed a tractor NOW, so I couldn't get cast center like I had wanted without waiting six weeks. We had cast centers and fluid filled tires on our Massey Ferguson 375 and it pulled amazing loads. My brother is using it now and he recently put new rear tires on and didn't get them filled yet, you can really tell the difference, still decent, but not as good as before.

We used an 80 HP tractor for years and it did everything we needed, so we replaced it with the M8540, but if I had thought I might need the extra HP, I would have gone with the M9540; not a lot of difference in price. With the M9960, you can get the 24/24 transmission which is not offered in the M8560, not an issue for us, so we got the 12/12 hydro shuttle. We didn't need dual rear remotes when we bought it, but now have a box scraper with hydraulic shanks, so it is nice to have along with the hydraulic toplink, a necessity for us now that we have begun using one.

I put three rear remotes with Top and Tilt on our L5740, but it doesn't sound as though you will need that.

I also wanted an air ride seat, but have found the regular suspension seat comfortable enough, so didn't add one later; might consider it if you spend a lot of time in the seat though. I grew up riding steel seats, so what we have now is great in comparison.

I would also look to a rear wiper, we use ours on the 5740 all the time.

 

[Briana03]

Welcome to TBN

I moved your thread to the Kubota Owning/Operating forum.

 

[MHarryE]

You will be giving up over 10 PTO HP compared to your Oliver. In addition the torque backup might be better on the larger engine (either 4.6 or 5.1 on the Oliver vs. 3.8 on the Kubota). Suggest looking hard at the 9960 as it seems to be a much better match - if the price doesn't kill the deal. The 9960 has about 3 more PTO HP. Still the tractor ill be about 3,000 pounds lighter than the Oliver so like they said, find all the ballast you can add for traction.

 

[M8560HD12 TAMMARC FARM]

You will be giving up over 10 PTO HP compared to your Oliver. In addition the torque backup might be better on the larger engine (either 4.6 or 5.1 on the Oliver vs. 3.8 on the Kubota). Suggest looking hard at the 9960 as it seems to be a much better match - if the price doesn't kill the deal. The 9960 has about 3 more PTO HP. Still the tractor ill be about 3,000 pounds lighter than the Oliver so like they said, find all the ballast you can add for traction.

I am definitely going with the M9960HD12 ROPS and may even fill the tires - I know I am giving up some nice power/torque trading in the Oliver 1755, but the hydraulics on that puppy just never can get repaired completely w/o $$$ thrown at it

Excellent advise everyone, I will post pics upon arrival

 

[xring100]

I would Definitely go for rim quard its a cheap 1800 lbs of ballast if you have the 18.4 r 30 mine was $300/ $350. I think for what your doing you will appreciate the investment in the 9960 over the 8560. I have more horse power than i hope to ever need with my 8540 but i needed the loader capacity and a skid steer for me was out of the question.

Dave

 

[case245]

i suggest you talk to FOREMAN etexas HE DOES HAYING WITH A 7040 i would get the 3 rear remotes if you need them you have them

 

[M8560HD12 TAMMARC FARM]

I would Definitely go for rim quard its a cheap 1800 lbs of ballast if you have the 18.4 r 30 mine was $300/ $350. I think for what your doing you will appreciate the investment in the 9960 over the 8560. I have more horse power than i hope to ever need with my 8540 but i needed the loader capacity and a skid steer for me was out of the question.

Dave

Thanks Dave, may do rim guard after plowing and 1st cutting to see how tractor runs - i think the weight with cast wheels will work, but won;t know until start breaking ground

Marc

 

[M8560HD12 TAMMARC FARM]

i suggest you talk to FOREMAN etexas HE DOES HAYING WITH A 7040 i would get the 3 rear remotes if you need them you have them

I will check w/ 7040 - thankx