Backhoe M59 backhoe dismount

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AWM59

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Winnsboro,Texas
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Kubota M59
I have not received my M59 yet. I would like to here from current owners about detaching the backhoe. What is the best procedure?
 
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I have a B26 but I am sure they remove the same way. Use the stabilizers to take the weight off so you can pull the pins on each side, then using the stabilizer to raise it up ( you may need to use the bucket also to make sure it comes up level). Drive forward a bit, neutralize backhoe pressures (best to just turn off the engine and cycle everything till it is slack, then unhook the hydraulic lines. ON my B26 I then plug the lines on the tractor back into each other and it is finished. YOUR OEM should explain it fully but it is rather easy. You do need to make sure that the backhoe sits on level ground, not so much to get it off as too make it easy to hook back up.
The hardest part is aligning the tractor back to the hoe when reattaching it.
 
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Sounds like it should not take to long after doing it a few times.
 
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Sounds like it should not take to long after doing it a few times.
I can remove my BH in 5 minutes (having done it several times now) but it does take practice to get the pressure off the pins so they slide out easily. If you are planning on using 3pt equipment, the long pole in the tent is getting the 3pt arms installed, take me about 15 minutes to mount them. It takes me about 25 minutes to install the BH since I have to take the 3pt arms off. I run a 3pt chipper quite often, so remove the BH quite often.
 
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Does it help to keep those top pins lubricated?
 
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They don't move during operation, just slide in and out for hookup. I would think any grease would just gather dirt and make them harder to remove.
 
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The other day I was mounting my BH92 hoe and was lined up pretty well, but one of the pins didn't want to go in, even after I made some tiny adjustments to weight on the stabilizers, etc. I sprayed the pin with WD40 and it went in. This was the first time in 2 years that I felt like lubricating the pin would be worthwhile. In general, I agree with Gary F. above not to lube them unless you need to, they do not move and in fact the pins that prevent them from backing out also prevent them rotating. (I assume pins on M59 are same as mine?)
 
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Does it help to keep those top pins lubricated?

I grease mine every time I put the backhoe back on, the build up is not significant. That helps a lot on removal of mine. I don't have your model but assume they are similar. Any pictures of the M59 pins?
 
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There was a thread some years back where a person had difficulty the first time removing the pins to take the backhoe off of his M59. Finally ended up taking it back to the dealer where they had to wrestle with it. Apparently the pins were stuck in place with some paint or maybe just too tight of a fit.....I forget which now.

Anyway, his suggestion was to have the dealer show you how to remove/reinstall the backhoe on your own tractor before you take it home.

That makes sense to me - although I confess to not having any experience with doing it myself. It's kind of embarrassing. We bought our M59 back when they first came out , and although it came with the 3pt kit, we've never taken the backhoe off. It's not all that surprising; the JD530 is hard to beat for 3 pt work - much more sophisticated linkage than the fairly basic Kubota 3 pt hitch - and we use the backhoe anyway for one thing or another most every day.

Someday I might dismount and remount the BH just for the fun of seeing how it goes....maybe learn how that Kubota Cat II 3pt really works.....probably should do so....but of course I've been saying that for years.

If you do yours, let us know how it goes.
good luck,
rScotty
 
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rScotty,

How many Transmission filters does the M59 have. I got the filters and fluids for the 50 hour service but I'm not sure I have it all. I have the engine filter, a suction filter and a HST filter. Is that all the filters?
 
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When I took off my backhoe of my l45 for the first time after 200 hours of use the pins were real tight I managed to use a hammer and get them free then they slide right out. I then cleaned up the pin and the female part and when I came to put back on the backhoe everything slide in real good I also have them a little shot of wd40

I would thing that eventually those pins could seize if not talking out Just my thought
 
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When I took off my backhoe of my l45 for the first time after 200 hours of use the pins were real tight I managed to use a hammer and get them free then they slide right out. I then cleaned up the pin and the female part and when I came to put back on the backhoe everything slide in real good I also have them a little shot of wd40

I would thing that eventually those pins could seize if not talking out Just my thought

I grease my pins. Some people worry about dirt buildup but it's not that bad. After all, it's a tractor. Getting them out the first time was a chore like you say.
 
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rScotty,

How many Transmission filters does the M59 have. I got the filters and fluids for the 50 hour service but I'm not sure I have it all. I have the engine filter, a suction filter and a HST filter. Is that all the filters?

How's the M59 treating you?

It has the engine oil filter up front on the engine block plus three more filters associated with the hydraulic system.

These three hydraulic filters are underneath the body and they all service the hydraulic and hydrostatic both - it is a common sump for all. The first one you'll see is called the transmission it is a slightly shorter filter and it is mounted horizontally right above a long heavy rod...might be the rear brake rod.

After you deal with that one, there are a PAIR of hydraulic filters you'll see on the other side - still underneath. You'll have to remove a skid plate to access them. Kubota calls them hydraulic filters.
All of these hydraulic filters are on there tightly and I'm not the only person to have had trouble removing them. I used a strap wrench because I couldn't find a filter socket sized right to remove the hydraulic ones. After bending one of those pressed steel strap wrenches, I bought a real strap wrench with an aluminum handle - only to find that the nifty plastic strap wasn't long enough and so had to add a strap extension using some 1" nylon webbing and some copper rivets. Used the kind of hand-hammered flush rivets with their special copper washers like saddle makers and leather workers used to use for belts. Had to make up a simple tool to slide over the rivet and force the copper washer down.

Other folks have removed the filters by piecing them and turning them with a big screwdriver driven through the body of the filter. I didn't want to do that as a first option....but nearly had to anyway.

2 important notes: First of all, when you drain the transmission oil the owner's manual says there are two big drain bolts for the transmission. Mine - and other M59s - only have one transmission drain bolt. Where the book shows another should be is nothing....not even a bulge on the tranny casting where they might have forgotten to machine a drain bolt. But it drained just fine.

The other note is that these filters screw onto a standard pipe nipple - and that nipple screws into the block. Looks like about a standard 2 or 4" pipe nipple. Mine were loose in the block and so I tightened them before putting on the new filters. Be sure to check yours when the filter is off.

I bought the standard OEM filter kit from Kubota along with a spare engine oil and inside air filter. Cost was $183 total shipped UPS to my door. I probably spent another $40 and a trip to town getting the right strap wrench set up.

Lots of people have noticed that the first time they change the oils there is a lot of swarf in the oil and filters. Apparently that's common; no problems as far as I've heard.
good luck, rScotty
 
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All of these hydraulic filters are on there tightly and I'm not the only person to have had trouble removing them. I used a strap wrench because I couldn't find a filter socket sized right to remove the hydraulic ones. After bending one of those pressed steel strap wrenches, I bought a real strap wrench with an aluminum handle - only to find that the nifty plastic strap wasn't long enough and so had to add a strap extension using some 1" nylon webbing and some copper rivets. Used the kind of hand-hammered flush rivets with their special copper washers like saddle makers and leather workers used to use for belts. Had to make up a simple tool to slide over the rivet and force the copper washer down.

You may want to consider getting a Chain Oil Filter Wrench . I've used them in the past and they work really well.
 
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Thanks rScotty! I thought I was missing a filter. The parts guys guys just gave me 1 of the hydraulic filters. Where do you order your parts from?
 

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