Lug nuts/bolts doing a Peter Pan

   / Lug nuts/bolts doing a Peter Pan #21  
In almost 50 years of driving and 10 years of working on cars and trucks for a living I never seen a properly tightened lug nut come loose
 
   / Lug nuts/bolts doing a Peter Pan #23  
You have led a blessed life.

I have seen loose lugs while working in the garage but I have never had any on my personal vehicles. I am also blessed!
 
   / Lug nuts/bolts doing a Peter Pan #24  
I have seen loose lugs while working in the garage but I have never had any on my personal vehicles. I am also blessed!

Me to a torque wrench must be my friend.
 
   / Lug nuts/bolts doing a Peter Pan #25  
In almost 50 years of driving and 10 years of working on cars and trucks for a living I never seen a properly tightened lug nut come loose

Have to agree with you here.
Owned a repair shop for over 30 years. Hand torqued wheels properly torqued should never come loose.

Best fix for his tractor would be reaming the axles for oversized studs. Get another reamer the size of the oversized studs and drill the wheels. Then find the max torque for what he is using.
 
   / Lug nuts/bolts doing a Peter Pan #26  
I dont agree that the hub is toast. The lug bolts dont seat on the rim, they just hold it tight to the hub on the tractor (note photo center hub). The rim is seated on the center hub so it should be good if you just sand the bolt holes flat to remove any protrusions caused by the loose bolt wobble then install new bolts. Fastenal has some special two piece lock washers called Nordlock and they wont loosen off. The front hubs on my LS kept loosening off and after twice tightening them, I got all new 10.9 bolts and the special Nordlock washers and they have been tight ever since.

You may have to chase the threads on the tractor hub. I would look at running a thread tap in from the back side to clean the threads. Much easier that way than trying to start it from the buggered thread side.
 
   / Lug nuts/bolts doing a Peter Pan #27  
I dont agree that the hub is toast. The lug bolts dont seat on the rim, they just hold it tight to the hub on the tractor (note photo center hub). The rim is seated on the center hub so it should be good if you just sand the bolt holes flat to remove any protrusions caused by the loose bolt wobble then install new bolts. Fastenal has some special two piece lock washers called Nordlock and they wont loosen off. The front hubs on my LS kept loosening off and after twice tightening them, I got all new 10.9 bolts and the special Nordlock washers and they have been tight ever since.

You may have to chase the threads on the tractor hub. I would look at running a thread tap in from the back side to clean the threads. Much easier that way than trying to start it from the buggered thread side.

It is a piloted hub which has gone unnoticed here by most but the bolts still have to resist rotation. If they’ve been wallowed out they might allow it to rotate back and fourth and get worse. I agree that welding 2 holes to a tight fit is the best thing to do.
 
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   / Lug nuts/bolts doing a Peter Pan #28  
So many tire shops have no idea what a torque wrench is.....
Its funny watching many mechanic/car shows on TV how many people just run the lug nuts on with a impact
 
   / Lug nuts/bolts doing a Peter Pan #29  
You have led a blessed life.

LOL, not really. I did have one place that did my tires leave one wheel extremely loose.
 
   / Lug nuts/bolts doing a Peter Pan #30  
I checked my lugs tonight.
405 hours and all is well.
 
   / Lug nuts/bolts doing a Peter Pan #31  
   / Lug nuts/bolts doing a Peter Pan #32  
Metal standards not being followed worldwide? Gee....ya think? Good stuff costs more.
 
   / Lug nuts/bolts doing a Peter Pan
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#33  
Saving the internet some time: the part number for rear-wheel stud for Kioti NX series tractors is T4340-27122

This part number is not listed in my 2014 parts book.

Meanwhile, tractor action.

 
   / Lug nuts/bolts doing a Peter Pan #34  
Eric, nice job on the video removing the dead Jack Pines. :thumbsup:

I noticed you don't use a steering wheel spinner. I've put one on each of my tractors and found it really speeds up maneuvering, especially loader and grapple work. This is a pretty good one, made by Speeco for TSC's County Line private label: CountyLine Deluxe Wheel Spinner at Tractor Supply Co.
 
   / Lug nuts/bolts doing a Peter Pan #35  
Do not weld a wheel with tire on it. I think we’ve all seen those videos. Kaboom!
 
   / Lug nuts/bolts doing a Peter Pan #36  
I suffered that problem only it was the ring gear in my front differential.
The factory simply used metal tabs to act as locks.
That was a costly repair as I needed a ring and pinion set.

My solution was 'lock tight' and drilled heads with locking wire as in aviation practice.
That was 900 hours ago.

Front rims also suffered from oval holes but again no more. Locking wire to the rescue!
 
   / Lug nuts/bolts doing a Peter Pan #37  
think yourself fortinate, often when you lose a stud or 2 on a wheel the remaining ones can shear or damage the hub.
 
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#38  
Do not weld a wheel with tire on it. I think we’ve all seen those videos. Kaboom!

Good advice!

think yourself fortunate, often when you lose a stud or 2 on a wheel the remaining ones can shear or damage the hub.

Agreed. Since I was totally unaware of the issue, I feel fortunate about a neighbor walking through my property happened to notice the wheel and let me know before disaster struck.

I suffered that problem only it was the ring gear in my front differential.
The factory simply used metal tabs to act as locks.
That was a costly repair as I needed a ring and pinion set.

My solution was 'lock-tight' and drilled heads with locking wire as in aviation practice.
That was 900 hours ago.

Front rims also suffered from oval holes but again no more. Locking wire to the rescue!

I was an AH-1 tech (67Y30) in the Army and about the only residual skill I still use from those days is a well-developed sense of good safety wiring! The pre-drilled grade 10.9 bolts must have cost you a small fortune.

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