Lubrication additives for Diesel Fuel in older tractor

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Silvia

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What can I add to older (1980’s) Diesel tractor to add lubricity to the fuel.
Have been told that Automobile Transmission Fluid or Two Cycle Oil (used in two cycle engines) can be used but I do not know at what ratio. (How much per gallon of diesel fuel?) Other substitutes?
 
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Why what's happening
 
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You can use Mystery oil.. 4 ounces to 10 gallons of fuel.. Same for atf or 2 stroke oil would be fine...
 
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Why what's happening
He is probably being proactive. Diesel today is low Sulphur. Sulphur is what was added to diesel to lubricated the diesel pump. I add two ounce of Power Service in the white bottle and 5-6 ounces of Marvel Mystery oil to every five gallons of diesel. I have experienced no problems with the four diesel product I own using the street diesel with the Power Service and Marvel Mystery oil in it.

"Sulfur, which is a chemical element, and is what gives petroleum diesel its lubricating properties. With ULSD, petroleum diesel has significantly less of the component that helped with lubricity. As a result, many fleets are spending money on lubricity additives or seeing increased wear on their engines."
 
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2 stroke oil should work fine. I also use power service in the silver jug.
 
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He is probably being proactive. Diesel today is low Sulphur. Sulphur is what was added to diesel to lubricated the diesel pump. I add two ounce of Power Service in the white bottle and 5-6 ounces of Marvel Mystery oil to every five gallons of diesel. I have experienced no problems with the four diesel product I own using the street diesel with the Power Service and Marvel Mystery oil in it.

"Sulfur, which is a chemical element, and is what gives petroleum diesel its lubricating properties. With ULSD, petroleum diesel has significantly less of the component that helped with lubricity. As a result, many fleets are spending money on lubricity additives or seeing increased wear on their engines."
Correct me if I’m wrong but sulfur was always in diesel when refined. Sulfur was’t intentionally added to protect diesel fuel systems.
It was discovered when they began reducing the sulfur content for emissions that they started seeing increased fuel system issues such as injection pump leaks. Without sulfur seals would shrink, harden & leak.
As far as older diesels I wouldn’t be concerned because injection pressures were low (3500 psi) in my 1990 dodge Cummins and even lower in older diesel tractors.
The only time I intentionally dose my fuel is in winter with power service.
I have added marine 2stroke oil on occasion to fuel and it does quiet the engine down noticeably.
It’s you engine and for peace of mind it won’t hurt.

90cummins
 
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Correct me if I’m wrong but sulfur was always in diesel when refined. Sulfur was’t intentionally added to protect diesel fuel systems.
It was discovered when they began reducing the sulfur content for emissions that they started seeing increased fuel system issues such as injection pump leaks. Without sulfur seals would shrink, harden & leak.
As far as older diesels I wouldn’t be concerned because injection pressures were low (3500 psi) in my 1990 dodge Cummins and even lower in older diesel tractors.
The only time I intentionally dose my fuel is in winter with power service.
I have added marine 2stroke oil on occasion to fuel and it does quiet the engine down noticeably.
It’s you engine and for peace of mind it won’t hurt.

90cummins
Older engines are not immune to damage caused by modern day ULSD because they are old. Neither will running the home heating diesel or off road diesel in the vehicle prevent damage.

"Under Sulphur in Diesel Fuel Regulations (SOR/2002-254), the sulfur content of diesel fuel produced or imported was reduced to 15 ppm after 31 May 2006. This was followed by the reduction of sulfur in diesel fuel sold for use in on-road vehicles after 31 August 2006."

A reduction in Sulfur in Diesel was mandated because, SO2's, are emitted by the burning of fossil fuels or other materials that contain sulfur. Sulfur dioxide can damage trees and plants, inhibit plant growth, and damage sensitive ecosystems and waterways. It also can contribute to respiratory illness and aggravate existing heart and lung conditions.

Fuel producers when processing raw crude oil left the sulfur in the diesel fuel because it acts as a lubricant. Fuel producer today are required by regulation (SOR/2002-254), to refine the sulfur out of the diesel fuel down to 15PPM and place a Red Dye in Home Heating diesel to show that road taxes were not paid on the fuel. Don't ever get caught with Home Heating oil in a diesel vehicle on a highway.

That's felony tax evasion in the US. The government takes a very dim view of stealing from the Treasury.

In most US states, it's up to 5 years and 25 grand. If you're in the construction or farming trade, you will also lose the right to burn untaxed fuel in your equipment.
 
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On top of marvel I usually put some biocide in diesel that won't be used frequently.
 
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He is probably being proactive. Diesel today is low Sulphur. Sulphur is what was added to diesel to lubricated the diesel pump. I add two ounce of Power Service in the white bottle and 5-6 ounces of Marvel Mystery oil to every five gallons of diesel. I have experienced no problems with the four diesel product I own using the street diesel with the Power Service and Marvel Mystery oil in it.

"Sulfur, which is a chemical element, and is what gives petroleum diesel its lubricating properties. With ULSD, petroleum diesel has significantly less of the component that helped with lubricity. As a result, many fleets are spending money on lubricity additives or seeing increased wear on their engines."
Technically.. sulfur isn’t the Lubricant. It’s not a very good one.
It’s the manufacturing process required to remove the sulfur, that strips away lubricant values of the remaining liquid

Here’s one explanation

 
 
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