Looking at pull type snowblowers

[leonz]

Very interesting! I have a snow way plow which was on my old truck. I now have a new 1/2 ton and I'm hesitant to put the plow back on it. I looked into putting a front blade on my Kubota L3940 (40hp), but this rear front facing blower looks promising. My drive is about 200ft long but I also help maintain a 1/2 mile private drive. I'm in the snow belt of Lake Michigan. We get 75-100" in an average winter and so far my tractor with R4's hasn't been stuck, so I think I would have no problem with the forward facing blower.

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You may want to look at the Riest Single stage series 2000 pull type snow throwers as well since they have fewer parts and they require less power and being that the Canadian Dollars is weak the USD is more valuable in Canada.


www.riestindustries.com


Reist Industries Snow Throwers 2 Series Inverted - YouTube

 

[airbiscuit]

 

[airbiscuit]

They must be tough ..

 

[leonz]

Thanks for uploading the video airbiscuit.

I checked and they have a used Series 2000 pull type snow blower in stock model number 2087PT,
ID 13548542. it has a hydraulic drive motor for the chain driven chute rotation and a double acting hydraulic cylinder for spout control and requires two remote outlets

They want $5,000.00 Canadian dollars for it plus the 8 percent sales tax $400.00(Canadian dollars)which is refunded to the buyer at the border crossing station.

So the net cost to the buyer is $3,786.72 USD plus freight :drool:

 

[leonz]

It is just one more reason that a single stage front mounted snow thrower should be brought back to the US market for lawn tractors. Wheel Horse, Simplicity and IHC did it for years and they were bullet proof.

 

[NonTypicalCPA]

Which is better, single or two stage?

 

[radios1]

It is just one more reason that a single stage front mounted snow thrower should be brought back to the US market for lawn tractors. Wheel Horse, Simplicity and IHC did it for years and they were bullet proof.

they can't throw the snow as far though.. you can only make the auger go so fast, beyond that, it will fly apart, hence, the 2 stage..

 

[leonz]

Hello Radios1,

Yes they can and do, and no they will not fall apart as they are built much more strongly than 2 stage snow blowers of equivalent width of cut and the single stage units have fewer parts.

They have a lot of single stage snow blowers used on tractors and railroad snow plows in Europe.

My current toro snow pups continue to make my JDLA115 an embarrassment to own with their 2 cycle Tecumseh engines and direct belt drive with the paddle rotor. All I have needed is a drive belt and spark plug since for each one since 1996.


back to mules with snow blowers;

When the mule is pushing 540 RPM to the gearbox the snow blower rotor is rotating at 600+ revolutions per minute and the snow blower rotor can rotate even faster by changing the sprockets to smaller drive and driven sprockets which increases the drive sprocket speed and in the process it increases the driven sprocket speed on the snow blower rotor.

Snow removal comes down to five basic items that are required when using single stage and two stage snow throwers.

1. gross horse power
2. net horsepower available at the Power Take Off to create the torque needed to provide the force needed to spin the gear box when the implement is operated at the rated PTO speed of 1000 rpm OR 54O rpm.
a. hydrostatic transmissions and power trains are always subject to power loss from heat where the mechanical transmissions and their power take offs are gear driven.
3. adhesion from chains and or ballast weight
4. travel speed.
5. an operator that will not try to move to fast which complicates things as the snow pack is pushed forward with 2 stage machines whereas the single stage units pull all the snow into the snow blower rotor and eject it.

Two 2 stage snow blowers have open augers that will push the snow forward rather than break it up in to smaller pieces to be more efficiently disposed of.

The Riest single stage snow throwers tear into the snow pack and at a high speed of rotation and convey the smaller bits of snow pack into the center where the 4 paddles in the center eject it quickly up and out of the chute and spout.


In just one example with my past experience involving an original 1967 IHC Cub Cadet hydrostatic lawn tractor which is an excellent example; the V Belt drive to the one to one right angle bevel gear box to the final chain driven single stage snow blower I grew up with had no issues with throwing snow 50 or sixty feet with an original 12 horsepower 1967 IHC cub cadet with a horizontal crank Kohler engine.

I also used and owned wheel horse tractors with single stage snow throwers and they never had issues with any type of snow either.


5. The condition of the snow pack is the major factor as freeze thaw cycles will affect any single stage snow thrower or two stage snow blower performance.

Having a smaller mule 40 horse power mule with a turbo or a larger mule with a 60 horsepower engine with a larger engine frame size provides plenty for power for the single stage snow thrower like the series Riest series 1000 single stage or series 2000 single stage pull type snow thrower.

Two stage snow blowers cost less to make simply because they use thinner steel, no one admits that.

It takes a lot of work to engineer and build a single stage snow thrower as it take more steel with its large frame and side weldments.

1. trying to move too fast to clear snow will only cause you problems
2. the more power you have the better for snow removal BUT by simply traveling slower with a mule with less power you will still get the job done with a smaller mule with a single stage snow thrower as it has plenty of power and torque to do the job.

If your not going to operate the power take off at the 540 RPM speed and travel slowly to remove the snow pack you will have problems.

 

[NonTypicalCPA]

So I'm getting quotes of approximately $3,500 for a Sno-Way or Sno-Dogg quick attach snow plow for my FEL, or around $4,000 for a Meteor pull type blower. Between these two options, what do you like?

 

[airbiscuit]

So I'm getting quotes of approximately $3,500 for a Sno-Way or Sno-Dogg quick attach snow plow for my FEL, or around $4,000 for a Meteor pull type blower. Between these two options, what do you like?

My preference would be the Meteor rear pull snowblower with a loader on the front. You could always modify a ($500) truck plow to attach to your your loader if you felt the need.