Looking at JD 2210, 4010

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kcarver141

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Hi, I'm new here and have been lurking around reading the posts. I have a level 2.5 acres (1.75 pasture) and a 750' gravel drive. I dont need a mower but do need a FEL, box scraper and eventually a tiller. I currently have a '53 Ferguson w/FEL (a royal pain to steer). Anything with power steering will be great. I dont like the Hydro pedal the Kubotas have. Looked at the JD 2210 and the 4010. Any info on the 4010 would help. The local Kubota/JD dealer said that there has been a problem with the Hydro tranny on the 4010! is this true? There is enough info on the 2210 at this forum.
Thanks
Kevin
 
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There's been NO mention of any hydro problem with the 4010 on this forum in the year I've been on it. I've, like another 4010 forum user, moved lots of gravel with the 410 loader on my 4010. In my case, it was 25 tons. Think the other user moved even more. Some people pooh pooh the 4010 with 410 loader, that it won't lift the 850# that the 410 is rated for. Well, I've filled the bucket to the brim many times. It needs about 300# on the 3 pt plus filled tires to not be a bit tippy with the bucket full of gravel. Most of my loads were down my hill and turning a bit on the hill at times (carefully).

One user with a 4010 mentioned the hydro giving out when turning full steering lock. Think they fixed that on mine. The steering gets kinda gapy if it's fully loaded and I turn too fast or near its full lock. This happens rarely though.

With the LX4 cutter, it has plenty of power. I tried it out even when very new on my neighbor's meadow that hadn't been mowed. Couldn't even tell the LX4 was back there. It could easily drive a 5' bush hog. The weight might start to become a problem with a bigger hog hanging out there though.

Haven't used a tiller, as a friend gave me his 50 year old soil ripper off his JD M that is also 18 hp. It pulled it fine, as it did with 2 huge 16" disc hillers mounted on the bar in place of the chisel plows. Attached is a picture of the ripper. I used it as 3 pt weight during much of the gravel moving. Used the LX4 for about 6 tons' worth. Not quite enough weight on the 3 pt (probably about half its 400#) from the LX4 to not be slightly tippy.

I'll take my cruise control over the 2210's cup holder any day, too.

Ralph
 

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Doubt the 2210 has the lift height to handle the soil ripper nor this beast on the same 2x2 bar.

Ralph
 

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To get an idea of what the lift height is on the 2210 3pt check out the links to my pics. I am using a full size PHD and that subsoiler I have is the full size KK. Also...the next time you are at the dealer have him set a 2210 and 4010 side by side and measure the difference. The 2210 gets at least 2" higher lift at the pins over the 4010. But is about the much less that the 4110.
 
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I guess that just about settles that. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
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I'm satisfied !! LOL pretty much quiets the squeeky wheel dosent it?

Duc
 
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Weather finally cleared/warmed up enough to use the 4110. Managed to level out a bunch of frost heaves in a wet area being reclaimed near a lake and in a dry wooded area that I am making a fire break. Also moved 15 to 20 yards of greatly decomposed 10 year old tree stumps/branches. Posting this here because I went through similar (2210/4010/4110) decision. Results:
--The 410 loader did fine with the very heavy, water logged wood pulp. Only issue was probably related to break out force. There were times when the lift (and curl) would stall when trying to move clumps of matted together mass. I eventually got it all----just required a little back & forth/up and down
-- I was running through knee high brush/grass often. The extra ground clearance was useful. Think I’d have have to rig up a skid plate or shroud of some kind to use 2210 I had for these chores.
-- Draft arm turnbuckles needed to be unbolted and readjusted to shorten them up. As delivered, I couldn’t shorten them up enough to preclude arms from rubbing rear wheel with BB attached. (lateral movement)
So the big question is whether or not the move to the 4110 was worth the additional $3K. Especially after I get done with the one-time stuff. Answer is TBD.
There was a discussion a few pages back about a 4010 and mower deck power that was interesting.
And, for what its worth, here’s my (emphasis on MY, as in for my application) list of 2210 vice 4110 pros and cons
2110 plus
- ROPS lower but fixed (lower than 4110 foldable in upright position)
- Fuel filter/shut readily accessible
- Longer throttle lever
- Price
Limitations
- Ground clearance
- Transmission cooling fan exposed
- Hyd oil filter exposed
- Harder to access transmission screen
- Routing of snow blower chute adjustment cable close to exhaust
- Mid PTO shaft at high angle to front quick tach mount.
- No temp gauge
4110
Plus
- Dual brakes petal/brake steer
- 3 point rockshaft stop
- Bigger tires
- Metal fenders
- Full cat 1---
- Better hyd flow/FEL capacity
- Hyd filter is tucked away; cooler not exposed.
- Can handle weight of 4 foot forks and still be able to move snowmobiles
Concerns
- Price
- Fuel petcock /filter hidden behind panel
- Mower deck retention set up clunky
- ROPS has to be folded to fit my 83in garage door opening
- No temp gauge

If I didn’t have the frost heaves &brush and snowmobile movement to deal with I’d have kept the 2210. Great to have a choice—just figure out what you’re requirements are and how deep the pocket book is. Good luck
 
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Hey, Deere X475guy, those are some good pic's. Do you need the wheel weights? or could you have the tires filled? Last question, local dealer has JD 2210 w/fel for $11495 and a JD 4010 Hydro w/fel for $10995. What is the good buy?
 
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kcarver,

I think I would be doing some test driving; perhaps your dealer would even let you do that at your home. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif BTW, those prices sound about right what with price increases etc.
 
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kcarver141, thanks. I have tons more. BTW all the rocks you see piled there the 2210 did. I had the tires filled when I bought the tractor new a little less than a year ago. I had to move 40 yards of wet sand and the extra weight from the wheel weights helps to ballast it. I now have the tiller hanging off the back so I probably could loose the weights. I have 265 hours on this now and most of those hours were put on doing loader and ground engaging work. Someday all the heavy work will be done and I will be putting a lot less hours on per year and most of it will be mowing and bush hogging.

I think those prices are right in line with todays price of steel. I gave $12999.00 out the door for mine with the loader and 62C mower deck.

You do have more ground clearance with the 4010. For me the plus stopped there.
 

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