Long Hydraulic Hose Routing Question...

[Artisan]

Are there any hydraulic hose journeymen / pros here that can take
a look at my project and perhaps make some suggestions please? It is a
long way from the diverter valve (green) to the grapples cylinder at full
dump / curl. What is the best way to do this?

I am considering welding 2- male x male whatnot fittings* on and near the top
of my FEL Bucket, perhaps onto the 3.5" angle iron I welded onto the top
edge of the bucket that supports the grapple's mount. So perhaps
plumb two hoses from the FASSE Diverter Valve (green) to the 2 male x male
fittings on the backside and near the top of the bucket,
then 2 more hoses from there to the grapple's cylinder.
Ya think? Better ideas? I am all ears!

CLICK HERE to see the one post within my thread; BX25 GrappleOmatic or
view the whole thread CLICK HERE, or here is a picture.

Please disreguard the halloween prop / noose, it was holding the bucket while I had hoses off.

I may put a pair of quick disconnects there too.

 

[SSdoxie]

Artisan,
You are on the right path. If it were mine I would tie the grapple hoses to the bucket cylinder barrel, use something easily removed in case you want to remove the grapple. Then mid-way between that cylinder tie and the grapple clamp the 2 hoses together and connect a rubber strap (bunging cord) from ther back to the frame of the boom just below the diveter valve, this will help pull the hoses up out of harms way when bucket is rolled back.

 

[wdchyd]

The "whatnot fittings" you need are called bulkhead fittings

JIC Bulkhead Union

They don't require welding (the bracket will) and they are avail in straight/90's and different types ect......

 

[Zebrafive]

Not an expert or journeyman by any means. I would mount bulkhead fittings on the bucket. Hoses from the cylinder to the bulkhead fittings. The hoses from the diverter valve along the inside of the left loader arm (right in picture) to the bulkhead fitting.

Next I would rig a tarp strap from the diverter valve to the hoses. It would stretch at full dump and still have a little tension at full curl to keep the hoses out of pinch points and from dragging the ground. Use heavy duty tie wrap to secure tarp strap to hoses.

 

[SPYDERLK]

The axis going across from bucket pin to bucket pin is neutral. If you put a bracket [rod between 2pcs of angle] along this line or just a little above, you can do a 1 loop wrap of hose around it and then have them extend up to the top of the bucket. This will help you a bunch. Sheath the two hoses together in that woven ballistic nylon sleaving. Best to put your diverter far left and the wrap rod nearer center so the hoses run diagonal some, and thus spiral around the rod. This controls the hoses quite nicely. Depending which way you wrap, the spiral will loosen or tighten just a little as you dump the bucket. I believe tightening on dump works out best for hose mechanics. I think it would be best to run the hoses one piece all the way to the grapple cyl ports to help compliance during motion. 1/4" hoses w JIC 6 ends and rt angle adapters into cyl ports and a couple strategic zip ties makes a very clean setup.
...Have you braced the front side of the top edge of your bucket?
larry

 

[Artisan]

Some excellent input. I'll re-read later and really try to absorb the scenarios.
There is more than one way to skin a cat, it is the most elegant / functional
way w/ as little pain as possible that is desired.

I don't know if there are
any tools that will run on the, I think about 3gpm to that area but I am
considering some quick disconnects up there as well, if for nothing else a
quick removal of the grapple hook.

Yes, bulkhead fittings, are a thought.

I am thinking maybe I will make two hoses that just reach at full stretch,
make sure were all good then find a spot and a method at a somewhat
"neutral" area to mount a juncture.

Yes the top of tehe bucket was reinforced, CLICK HERE .

If you guys run into any pics of your methods please link me up!

BUMP!

 

[J_J]

Artisan,

As far as hyd implements up front, a hyd auger comes to mind.

Just make the grapple hose with QD's.

Everything is looking good, very good pictures. Keep up the good work.

You know you want a Ratchet Rake.

 

[SPYDERLK]

Artisan,

As far as hyd implements up front, a hyd auger comes to mind.

Just make the grapple hose with QD's.

Everything is looking good, very good pictures. Keep up the good work.

You know you want a Ratchet Rake.

In that case run 3/8 hose to supply the diverter.
larry

 

[Artisan]

I haven't looked into an auger, yet, how many GPM do the small ones need at what pressure? Will a BX25 push them? Yes, a FEL mounted auger would be very desirable, but it will have ot run off the volumn a 1/4" ID hose will give or I have to pull from somewhere else.

 

[Artisan]

Yep, right again J_J! :thumbsup: Another accessory on my wanted list!