Loader Cylinder Question

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duckhunt

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My 2816's loader (ml106) cylinders have black inserts rather that chrome like most other hydralic systems. I'm just curious but is there any difference.

When I bought the tractor they had a several models including a 2816 with chrome cylinders.

It probably doesnt make any difference in performance/quality but just thought I would ask.

Thanks.
 
   / Loader Cylinder Question #2  
I don't know about the black inserts, never have seen them By the way, duckhunt, welcome to Mahindra World. Just curious, why did you go with the 5ft angle blade? My dealer sold me a 7' so it would cover my tracks when fully angled.
 
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AchingBack

Good Question. When I bought the tractor I just told him I wanted a 5ft angle blade and he just said OK. I wish I would have went with a 7 ft. Mine isnt heavy enough to grade anything but sand. I'm going to weld a couple hundred lbs of weight to it when I get a chance. That should help.

BTW, How do you like that toothbar? I've been looking at getting one. I have been cleaning a house place with small trees and brush and figure a toothbar would be a big help.
 
   / Loader Cylinder Question #4  
My 2816's loader (ml106) cylinders have black inserts rather that chrome like most other hydralic systems. I'm just curious but is there any difference.

When I bought the tractor they had a several models including a 2816 with chrome cylinders.

It probably doesnt make any difference in performance/quality but just thought I would ask.

Thanks.
Are you talking about the cylinder rods? Could it be black nitride?

Black nitride hydraulic cylinder rods

Rusty
 
   / Loader Cylinder Question #5  
My 2816 has black cylinder rods also, I was wondering about them. Now I know!
Thanks Secret Squirrel!!!!
 
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Man... you guys are too efficient... you beat me to the answer.. :D
 
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Secret Squirrel

Wow! Now I know. I always thought it was some cheap alternative to the chrome. Glad I asked.

Thanks for the reply.
 
   / Loader Cylinder Question #8  
Most of the JD CUT's use the Black Nitride cylinder rods also.
 
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Most of the JD CUT's use the Black Nitride cylinder rods also.

Thats right, My neighbors John Deere has them. I already asked him about the black rods and he didnt know either. I'll have to tell him about Black Nitride.
 
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AchingBack

Good Question. When I bought the tractor I just told him I wanted a 5ft angle blade and he just said OK. I wish I would have went with a 7 ft. Mine isnt heavy enough to grade anything but sand. I'm going to weld a couple hundred lbs of weight to it when I get a chance. That should help.

BTW, How do you like that toothbar? I've been looking at getting one. I have been cleaning a house place with small trees and brush and figure a toothbar would be a big help.

The first thing I did to my bucket was to install a toothbar, and reinforce the top edge with angle iron. I then welded hooks to the angle iron. If you plan on getting the most out of your tractors digging ability, get a toothbar. They do assist in clean up as well, but nothing like a grapple will do.
 
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I installed some 3/8" plate on the sides of mine as well as the top angle and hooks. I hate bent up buckets. ;)
 

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   / Loader Cylinder Question #12  
Are you talking about the cylinder rods? Could it be black nitride?

Black nitride hydraulic cylinder rods

Rusty

Too cool for school! I was wondering why mine were black and not chrome as well but had not had a chance to do any research on that yet.

You guys are awesome! I've been in engineering work on Navy ships for over 30 years, yet I've been able to learn a grunch of new stuff just in my short time on TBN.
 
   / Loader Cylinder Question #13  
I installed some 3/8" plate on the sides of mine as well as the top angle and hooks. I hate bent up buckets. ;)

Brian,:D
I know you will not overload that center hook on your bucket.;) But I have seen too many buckets with hooks in the center that have bent top lips.:eek: Y'all. if you have a heavy load, please put it on a corner of your bucket:rolleyes: unless it is really beefed up like Brians.:cool:
hugs, Brandi
 
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Hooks on the corner anything other than, will curl the lip.
 
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Brian,:D
I know you will not overload that center hook on your bucket.;) But I have seen too many buckets with hooks in the center that have bent top lips.:eek: Y'all. if you have a heavy load, please put it on a corner of your bucket:rolleyes: unless it is really beefed up like Brians.:cool:
hugs, Brandi

Brandi, there have been a few posts where people are all worried about bending, tweaking the loader frame by having a heavy load on one corner only. What I think is that all the top lips of these AG type tractors need to be reinforced if you are going to be using that part of the bucket to support much weight at all. With a reinforced top lip and just a little common sense of where to place any particular load, most people will be alright.
 
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Brandi, there have been a few posts where people are all worried about bending, tweaking the loader frame by having a heavy load on one corner only. What I think is that all the top lips of these AG type tractors need to be reinforced if you are going to be using that part of the bucket to support much weight at all. With a reinforced top lip and just a little common sense of where to place any particular load, most people will be alright.

Brian,
I agree with all you said.;) Somewhere (I think it was building my pond:cool:) I tweaked my loader arms where one is a tad higher than the other.:eek: So my bucket is low at one end no matter where I have tilt. But I am learning how to compensate for it.:)
hugs, Brandi
 
   / Loader Cylinder Question #17  
hi,
issue 1)my 5500 will not start with a new battery
i checked a relay
it clicks when i turn key on.but my glow plug light does not work or anything else

issue2)i have been having a problem with leakdown of the bucket tilt cylinders

happy to be on tractorbynet and to share issues with u people...

help me brandi
 
   / Loader Cylinder Question #18  
hi,
issue 1)my 5500 will not start with a new battery
i checked a relay
it clicks when i turn key on.but my glow plug light does not work or anything else

issue2)i have been having a problem with leakdown of the bucket tilt cylinders

happy to be on tractorbynet and to share issues with u people...

help me brandi

Shada,
Welcome to TBN!:) New Battery, relay clicking equals a battery that is not charged good enough to turn your stater over or is not making a good connection.:(
Tilt cylinder leak.......how fast is it leaking down?:( Is it under load? Does it leak down when emtpy?:(
hugs, Brandi
 

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