Loader capacity

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Cedarthal

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Kioti CK30 HST
With my Kioti CK25/30 and loader KL130, I want to help my neighbor unload a new car lift that weighs 1350 pounds. As long as I keep the load low to the ground, I’m hoping it will work out OK. The loader manual says lift capacity to full height at pivot points is 1155 pounds but breakout force at pivot pounds is 2046 pounds. My rear tires do have ballast.
Will I be OK lifting a 1350 pound load?
 
   / Loader capacity #2  
I don't think you'll have any issues with lifting capacity, however, I'll say you'll most likely have some stability issues with the lack of rear ballast.

Hook your heaviest 3 pt attachment before you do that job. Filled tires is barely enough to compensate for the loader weight and some light loads on the loader.
 
   / Loader capacity #3  
Does loader have relief valve?
Try it slowly and no wheel movement.
 
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#4  
Thank you,Thomas & PTSG. I have an auger on the 3pt hook up. I would guess it weighs at least 200 pounds maybe more.

I do not know about a relief valve. Where would I find it and how does it function?

What should I consider a maximum liftable weight given the weight capacity and breakout force capacities that I mentioned in my original post? Just for my future reference.
 
   / Loader capacity #5  
No, don't do it. Those are in large boxes that span. Especially if you are taking it off something higher than 3 feet. The higher you go the less lifting capacity.

If you do do it put your heavier implement on the back
 
   / Loader capacity #6  
Some words of wisdom from someone who has both a 10,000# fork lift and a small CS2220 with pallet forks and a max lift capacity of around 600lbs.

On solid ground the fork lift is more forgiving, but the 4WD CS can get into places the fork lift will just get stuck/bogged.

We lift lots of odd sized/weighted objects and each one is always different.

Don't be in a hurry! Think things thru.

1) If your lifting an odd size/weighted object off a trailer - find/figure out the center pivot point. If you are using a sling over a bucket make sure it is secure and won't slip. Pallet forks are always better than a bucket. Tie a long rope on one end of the object to be lifted and have a spotter hold the rope to stop sway and/or rotation.

2) When you think you have the sling correct to balance the odd load, test by lifting 1inch. Keep the engine rpm at ~2000. If it is not balanced, lower and adjust the sling points. Use welding clamps to ensure the sling points (and on the bucket) won't shift/slip. Once you have it balanced and 1 inch off the trailer, set the parking brake and gear to neutral...........and GENTLY move to get off the tractor seat and off the tractor. If your weight on the tractor seat is the only thing that keeps the load stable, rethink your tractor rear ballast. It needs to be stable without you in the seat.

3) Before you attempt to remove the load from the trailer. Have mental plan for your tractors movements to get the load to its destination. Make sure all obstacles have been cleared and resting blocks are pre-placed at the destination to set the load down on.

4) Move very slowly with front wheels straight to get the load off the trailer. As soon as it is safe gently lower the load closer to the ground. Keep it just high enough to not hit anything.

5) Move slowly and minimize turning. Moving slowly back and forward to turn slowly is better than cranking the steering wheel.

6) Arrange the unloading zone to be on level, even and firm ground. Putting a front wheel in a small pot hole when near the load limit can tip you and the load.

Think it thru, make sure it feels stable, move slowly with no sharp turns/movements.

Check air pressure in the tires (before is better ;-) ).
 
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   / Loader capacity #7  
No, don't do it. Those are in large boxes that span. Especially if you are taking it off something higher than 3 feet. The higher you go the less lifting capacity.

If you do do it put your heavier implement on the back
It is rated for less weight at the pins and that doesn't even figure in the weight of the forks. Then you add the fact that the load is farther away from the lift cyl than the pins. The numbers are not good.
 
   / Loader capacity #8  
I have my doubts that it works in one shot but you could get some slings and unload the pieces separately.
 
   / Loader capacity #9  
I use to install lifts, and habe used some undersized tractors to unload.
You will be borderline on the lift but possibly doable. How high is the truck or trailer you'll be unloading from? How is the lift packaged?

What type of lift, 2 or 4 post?

If you do decide to try it, youll need more weight then the post hole auger on the back, maybe hang a few hundred extra pounds off the end of the boom if you dont have a heavier implement.

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   / Loader capacity #10  
Just figure that your 1100 lift capacity with forks will drop to about 700-750 24 inches out on the forks. For a test, raise your forks up high enough to hang off the end of a fork. And then you and/or a buddy grab the end of one fork and hang from it.. I wouldn't be surprised that one back tire of the tractor doesn't come off the ground.
 

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