Lifting the rear wheels

[Texas Dodge]

Well today I was moving some dirt and had the bucket on the FEL completely full. I went to back up and the back end was floating all over the place. I was basically balancing on the front wheels like a see saw. The back wheels were completely off of the ground.The back wheels are filled with water and sealant. About 75% of the tire has this mixture and the rest air. Could it be that this bucket for this tractor maybe a little to big for the tractor? I dumped about half out and then everything was ok. I was wondering what you guys would suggest to remedy the problem. I was thinking maybe something to hook up to the three point hitch with some weight.

 

[pdowling1]

You answered your own question there. Hang something heavy off the back, like a box blade or weight box & you'll be fine. It also lowers the stress on the front axle considerably.

 

[wushaw]

I have filled tires and a 830lb boxblade hanging off the back of my L2800. Never a problem with this weight.

Working with just filled tires and no weight hanging off the 3pt will cause major pucker factor.

I even had the back tires off the ground with a 510lb boxblade once...tires were filled then also.

I don't know the exact 3pt weight with filled tires to keep the rears on the ground but 830 does do the trick.

 

[Texas Dodge]

Anyone have any idea how much this 4ft box blade from TSC would weigh?

 

[Egon]

That is a pretty common situation for me. Just do not lower the loader real fast as that gives quite a bump when the rear wheels hit the ground.

 

[Texas Dodge]

That is a pretty common situation for me. Just do not lower the loader real fast as that gives quite a bump when the rear wheels hit the ground.

Don't worry I lowered the bucket real slow since my butt was puckered

 

[wushaw]

Anyone have any idea how much this 4ft box blade from TSC would weigh?

@250-300lbs. Not enough nor big enough for your L3400. Your outside tire measurment is 60" for R4 tires, get a 66" min width BB for a little wiggle room on each side.

 

[wushaw]

You could make a ballast box using concrete as the weight.
There are several threads here on making such items inexpensively.

 

[clenhart]

I saw your new tractor post a few days ago and was curious about the loader you had. I did a search and finally found some specs. for it, but don't remember where. If I remember right, the lift capacity on that loader is at least 500 lbs. more than the Kubota LA 463. So, if it does what they say it will do, I would be careful not to overload the front axle.

What size is the bucket on the loader? The factory bucket on the LA463 is 60".

 

[Texas Dodge]

I saw your new tractor post a few days ago and was curious about the loader you had. I did a search and finally found some specs. for it, but don't remember where. If I remember right, the lift capacity on that loader is at least 500 lbs. more than the Kubota LA 463. So, if it does what they say it will do, I would be careful not to overload the front axle.

What size is the bucket on the loader? The factory bucket on the LA463 is 60".

The bucket is 60". I think from now on I will just fill it up half way.

 

[Texas Dodge]

Here are the specs I found. Looks like 557lbs is max.

 

[Harry c]

It appears that this chart is metric. I suspect the 557 is kilograms not pounds. Multiply by 2.2 for pounds.

 

[wushaw]

You can just fill the bucket half way but just for your safety you may still want to get some kind of rear ballast, there will come a day when you get tired of only filling the bucket half way and taking twice as long to get something done.

My L2800 has the 60" bucket and I am able to heap wet clay since it won't fall out like busted up dry clay. I can move more wet dirt than dry. My tooth bar helps alot also.

 

[bigballer]

i generally will not do any fel work without my boxblade (woods 65" - 500lbs) or something else attached (hoe, rake, mower) - anything to counter the weight. just today i was too busy to change out my rake (i think it weighs 250lbs.) for the bb and had a pucker moment when moving some heavy gravel, a couple little bumps/dips in the right place will unweight the rear wheel enough to jump start the heart. another thing i do to minimize risk is to keep the bucket as low as possible when transporting loads, i figure this way i can drop it to the ground very quickly if i get into a sticky situation.

fwiw, my rear wheels are only filled with air.

i would recommend getting at least a 66" bb for the 3400, anything else is just too small.

 

[john_bud]

IF you have a loader, my opinion is that you should fill the rear tires with fluid. You can use a weak water / antifreeze solution for protection to 20F. That will make the machine more stable, less prone to flipping over and will help wiht the lightness.

Then get a rear implement or make a weight box for the 3pt. Target about 5-700#.

jb

 

[SLOBuds]

i generally will not do any fel work without my boxblade (woods 65" - 500lbs) ... i would recommend getting at least a 66" bb for the 3400, anything else is just too small.

Does anyone object to dragging a boxblade along with you when you are trying to do loader work?

It seems like I would be able to do my work easier if I used some other technique to weigh down the rear end - water or weights or ???

Thanks

 

[Vern1]

Greetings,
My L35 has foam filled tires front and back so they add a good bit of weight but the tractor is so strong that even then, when I grab a round bale or pallet that weights around 1800 pounds, I like some extra weight on back.
With the hoe on there, the back end simply doesn't come up.
I have a really heavy box blade that I leave on there most of the time for balance/ballast.
Usually when I am doing loader work, I am smoothing sometimes also with the box blade too so they compliment each other.
With just the weight of the foam in the tires, a full FEL bucket is no problem.

 

[Texas Dodge]

IF you have a loader, my opinion is that you should fill the rear tires with fluid. You can use a weak water / antifreeze solution for protection to 20F. That will make the machine more stable, less prone to flipping over and will help wiht the lightness.

Then get a rear implement or make a weight box for the 3pt. Target about 5-700#.

jb

I do have the rear tires filled with water, but the capacity of my bucket is 1225lbs

 

[kevinj]

I do have the rear tires filled with water, but the capacity of my bucket is 1225lbs

I run my rear tires filled AND have a 1200# weight on the 3PH. That is about minimum for stability on mine.

 

[Texas Dodge]

Anyone know what the weight capacity is for the front axle on the L3400?