Flail Mower Let's talk flail mowers

Jack Yuan · Mar 10, 2018

I have a question, why the cylinder is not parallel with the two track? I think this could make big noise when it is moving.

It should be parallel like this.

Reg · Mar 11, 2018

lagreex1 said:
Well I finally have time to start getting the side shift kit onto the TM1900. The "directions" (if you can call them that) are TERRIBLE. I am trying to document the process in case anyone else can benefit from it.

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To fit the side shift kit you have to take all the standard hitch equipment off.
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This leaves you with the standard top link tower and lower 3pt mounts as spare parts (unless you take the slide shift kit off later).

The kit comes with it's own top link tower. It is different from the standard one
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I dry-fit the side shift assembly on top. It's held on by a bolt and some wire. The cylinder mounts aren't lined up in this picture, so it won't normally be cockeyed.
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One thing I didn't realize was that holes need to be drilled to mount the kit. I'm not looking forward to that. That's the next step, for another day. There are spacers that need to be inserted on the cylinder assembly, but I haven't figured out exactly how many or where. Different spacing is required for rear mount or front mount assembly, and the instructions aren't clear.

It has been a long time since I did mine, but from memory it wasn't all THAT hard.
Accepted that the translations are rough, add some intuit and with a clear head ta dahh... all done.

One thing to watch out for when drilling the holes is that you have everything "square, level and plumb".
Initially I didn't and a slight out of squareness caused considerable binding when shifting to extreme right.
I had to "oval out" a couple of holes, assemble barely snug then shift out to allow everything to settle "where all the tolerances tolerated each other" then really tighten things up.

YMMV etc.

leonz · Mar 11, 2018

Hello Countryguy,

If you purchase the wet well grinder from Micromark and a grinder angle guide from woodcraft to adjust the tool rest on your wet well grinder you will be able to set the proper angle and also save the metal from becoming heat damaged losing and losing its heat treated strength.

leonz · Mar 11, 2018

Hello Mr Yuan,

Is this one of your side shift kits that you sell????

As the cylinders stroke is limited by its mounting point and stroke limiter it will travel only a short distance along the XY plane but the bronze bushings if used will be a major wear part.

leonz · Mar 11, 2018

lagreex1 said:
Well I finally have time to start getting the side shift kit onto the TM1900. The "directions" (if you can call them that) are TERRIBLE. I am trying to document the process in case anyone else can benefit from it.

View attachment 543360

To fit the side shift kit you have to take all the standard hitch equipment off.
View attachment 543351

This leaves you with the standard top link tower and lower 3pt mounts as spare parts (unless you take the slide shift kit off later).

The kit comes with it's own top link tower. It is different from the standard one
View attachment 543361

I dry-fit the side shift assembly on top. It's held on by a bolt and some wire. The cylinder mounts aren't lined up in this picture, so it won't normally be cockeyed.
View attachment 543356
View attachment 543362

One thing I didn't realize was that holes need to be drilled to mount the kit. I'm not looking forward to that. That's the next step, for another day. There are spacers that need to be inserted on the cylinder assembly, but I haven't figured out exactly how many or where. Different spacing is required for rear mount or front mount assembly, and the instructions aren't clear.

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WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, Before you start drilling anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please purchase an Italian to English language dictionary to do the work first !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You have to flip the side shift kit over to mount it in the 3 attachment holes that correspond with the three holes in the side shift kit on both weldments on the flail mower shroud.

I will have to get in touch with Rodney Barbour about this.

lostcreekranch · Mar 11, 2018

leonz said:
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WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, Before you start drilling anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please purchase an Italian to English language dictionary to do the work first !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You have to flip the side shift kit over to mount it in the 3 attachment holes that correspond with the three holes in the side shift kit on both weldments on the flail mower shroud.

I will have to get in touch with Rodney Barbour about this.

Good Catch! I was also wondering about the need to drill holes.

powerscol · Mar 13, 2018

Leonz - correct as usual
Errore! Pagina non trovata - Caroni SpA

3 pages down shows a good picture of the install

lagreex1 · Mar 17, 2018

I scanned in the installation manual for the side shift kit, for anyone who's interested:
Caroni Side Shift Kit Instructions - Album on Imgur

lagreex1 · Mar 17, 2018

I got a little bit more figured out today.

In order to mount the strike plate for the hydraulic cylinder, I had to do some grinding on one of the welds where the 3pt link arm attaches. After that, the bolt holes lined up and the M18 bolt fit in fine.

I finally realized that the spacer the installation instructions were referring to was already installed.

The smaller spacer is only required for front-mounting. I don't know why I received two of the smaller spacers.

Here is the box of bolts and misc parts. I finally realized that the red and black discs are not spacers. They are heavy-duty washers to be used on the inside of the flail mower after drilling bolt holes. The two red ones are clipped because full sized discs won't fit with two of the holes.