Legroom in UTVs

   / Legroom in UTVs #21  
That’s not how it works. The ones re-branding the machine aren’t going out and paying retail. They enter into an agreement with the manufacturer and both sell the machines at similar retail prices. Warranty issues fall to the one that sells the machine.

Yeah, that's my point. The original manufacturer makes a nice profit when he sells to the rebrander. The rebrander makes a nice profit when he sells to me. So,,,,, if I simply bought from the original manufacturer wouldn't he be making a very handsome profit on me?? Of course he would. The manufacturer realizes his market share is very small. So he's willing to allow rebranding. Theory being it's better to make .10 cents on a widget and sell a million of them versus making .25 cents on the same widget and only selling a thousand. So why don't the manufacturer settle for .10 cents per widget and sell directly to us rather than gouge us for .25 cents??

Warranty issues fall on the seller, until the item failing is only available from the original manufacturer such as an engine. Then the run around starts and you will quickly learn how good your seller truly is.

Rebranding is becoming common so I'm certainly not picking on any particular brand.
 
   / Legroom in UTVs #22  
I held off buying my Mule 2510 back in 2000 or so because a new body style was supposed to be coming. They had already done the gasser but not the diesel. Anyway, I got the old style 2510 and then of course the new style came out!

The good news is that the old style has no dash on the passenger side, so when my chauffeur is driving me around, I can stretch my legs fully out, usually with drink in hand. At moments like that, life doesn't seem to get any better! And I would not give up this one feature of the old 2510 for anything.
 
   / Legroom in UTVs #23  
I'm 6'7" and a friend of mine has 3 Polaris Rangers and I have no problem in any of them. Good machines
 
   / Legroom in UTVs #24  
Yeah, that's my point. The original manufacturer makes a nice profit when he sells to the rebrander. The rebrander makes a nice profit when he sells to me. So,,,,, if I simply bought from the original manufacturer wouldn't he be making a very handsome profit on me?? Of course he would. The manufacturer realizes his market share is very small. So he's willing to allow rebranding. Theory being it's better to make .10 cents on a widget and sell a million of them versus making .25 cents on the same widget and only selling a thousand. So why don't the manufacturer settle for .10 cents per widget and sell directly to us rather than gouge us for .25 cents??

Warranty issues fall on the seller, until the item failing is only available from the original manufacturer such as an engine. Then the run around starts and you will quickly learn how good your seller truly is.

Rebranding is becoming common so I'm certainly not picking on any particular brand.

There is more to this. It also has a lot to do with the quantity purchased. If you wanted to purchase 1000 utility vehicles I think you would probably be able to negotiate a better price with the manufacturer.
With onesey twosey sales there is uncertainty, marketing costs for your brand, more expensive shipping, cost of money due to it being held on the lot or in warehouses.

It isn't an apples to apples comparison. That said, is there room to come down on price, probably, but the market bares it.
 
   / Legroom in UTVs #25  
There is more to this. It also has a lot to do with the quantity purchased. If you wanted to purchase 1000 utility vehicles I think you would probably be able to negotiate a better price with the manufacturer.
With onesey twosey sales there is uncertainty, marketing costs for your brand, more expensive shipping, cost of money due to it being held on the lot or in warehouses.

It isn't an apples to apples comparison. That said, is there room to come down on price, probably, but the market bares it.

Yep. I have no fantasy of a sudden drop in price. :)
 
   / Legroom in UTVs #26  
I'm 6'0 and I don't have any issues with my RTV1100's leg room..The seat could be much better as it does my back in after 3 or 4 hours of plowing--Not going to whine much because I love the HVAC :D..Change out the stupid amount of head room for cab room and better seats would be my suggestion...Neighbors new Mule 610 is fairly similar although the roof is much lower.
 
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#27  
Well, I looked at bunch of UTVs again, and it became obvious the Kubota RTV was the Cadillac of the bunch when looking for something with a work bias. It's just built heavier and more solid than the others, and the diesel power train is more tractor than ATV, which I like. It turns out to be on the roomier end of the scale too. I spent enough time on one (in workbooks no less) to realize I could get very comfortable once my ankle got used to the angle on the throttle, and brake is seldom used.

My local dealer had one RTV-X1120D left in stock, and he gave me a little extra discount for being a return customer, in addition to the $1200 Kubota rebate (when paying cash). They also updated the state inspection on my trailer (few months past due) for free, and even replaced the dead 3-light center bar on the rear for free. I think the salesman sensed I was on the fence between the 900 and 1120, and he knew a couple freebies would tip the scale.

I have only used the 1120 a little bit around my property, but like it even better than I anticipated when considering UTVs. It's a great alternative to my tractor when I need to move around more quickly and don't need a front loader. Went for one trail ride with my daughter and I am really impressed with how it handles off road in 4WD low. Lots of control up and down hills (never used the brake pedal once) and there is a ton of suspension travel to keep the wheels on the ground. Feels like a mountain goat.

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   / Legroom in UTVs #28  
Well, I looked at bunch of UTVs again, and it became obvious the Kubota RTV was the Cadillac of the bunch when looking for something with a work bias. It's just built heavier and more solid than the others, and the diesel power train is more tractor than ATV, which I like. It turns out to be on the roomier end of the scale too. I spent enough time on one (in workbooks no less) to realize I could get very comfortable once my ankle got used to the angle on the throttle, and brake is seldom used.

My local dealer had one RTV-X1120D left in stock, and he gave me a little extra discount for being a return customer, in addition to the $1200 Kubota rebate (when paying cash). They also updated the state inspection on my trailer (few months past due) for free, and even replaced the dead 3-light center bar on the rear for free. I think the salesman sensed I was on the fence between the 900 and 1120, and he knew a couple freebies would tip the scale.

I have only used the 1120 a little bit around my property, but like it even better than I anticipated when considering UTVs. It's a great alternative to my tractor when I need to move around more quickly and don't need a front loader. Went for one trail ride with my daughter and I am really impressed with how it handles off road in 4WD low. Lots of control up and down hills (never used the brake pedal once) and there is a ton of suspension travel to keep the wheels on the ground. Feels like a mountain goat.

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Congrats, I love mine too..You described the RTV perfectly. The new seats appear to be much better than what I have ---Mine's a cloth job but is positioned like a bleacher. Not bad for an hour or so but gets rough after a while. Sat in a new one like yours and the new configuration seems much better. Bet I've only used my brakes to switch gears...they should last forever. Kubota's engine braking is a beautiful thing in all kinds of applications.
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   / Legroom in UTVs #29  
Nice! Enjoy! I don't know how we would live without our UTV, it's indispensable for all the work we have around the place.
 
   / Legroom in UTVs #30  
I test drove a new Can-Am Defender. It has less legroom than a Yamaha Viking, but more than a Ranger. All three Viking, Ranger, and Defender are easy to get into a way better than the Gators I've tried.
 

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