Legal question

[futuresweets10]

Well if that's the concern, what have you done to prevent garbage from getting in the valve a second time? For instance, did you drain & fill the system with fresh oil of the proper spec and clean any strainers and replace any filters?

Completely drained and flushed the system, cleaned the tank by hand, changed all filters and strainers. They said they found no garbage the first time. If it had been trash in the valves and I hadnt cleaned the system it would have atleast tried to do something right when the valves got put back on.

The fact that they found no trash, and the problem hasnt changed for the worse or better tells me that its not a second occurrence of the problem, but still the first.

 

[futuresweets10]

I just got the rebuilt cylinder re-installed on the machine and the problem has not changed. I am going to talk to the shop on monday but I am not too hopeful. I have a feeling that even if they agree to look at the valves again they will tell me I am responsible for removal and installation since I brought just the valves in last time.

 

[RickB]

You are tripping over dollars to pick up pennies; then pointing the finger at others. You lack the skills, experience and equipment to troubleshoot the problem, then ask those with the resources and skills to do it blindfolded with one hand tied behind their back.

Troubleshooting needs to be done on a system-wide basis, not piecemeal. Guessing at a single component, isolating and throwing money at it again simply repeats past oversights.

As an example, a flow meter attached to the work ports of the valve section in question while attached to the pump and reservior would tell in two separate test runs if both valve work ports were recieving proper flow and pressure from the pump when stroked. 30 minutes to an hour's work, more or less, would prove or disprove the valve section is the problem while it is bolted to the machine. Next step is a live pressure test of the cylinder. It either passes or fails. After the faulty component is determined, repair it.

 

[futuresweets10]

You are tripping over dollars to pick up pennies; then pointing the finger at others. You lack the skills, experience and equipment to troubleshoot the problem, then ask those with the resources and skills to do it blindfolded with one hand tied behind their back.

Troubleshooting needs to be done on a system-wide basis, not piecemeal. Guessing at a single component, isolating and throwing money at it again simply repeats past oversights.

As an example, a flow meter attached to the work ports of the valve section in question while attached to the pump and reservior would tell in two separate test runs if both valve work ports were recieving proper flow and pressure from the pump when stroked. 30 minutes to an hour's work, more or less, would prove or disprove the valve section is the problem while it is bolted to the machine. Next step is a live pressure test of the cylinder. It either passes or fails. After the faulty component is determined, repair it.

Monday I am taking it to the shop... I have a feeling from what everyone at both the shop that did the valve and the cat dealer told me that I am looking at 3-4 hrs for them to trouble shoot it.... Maybe thats high, but when both shops say the same thing I dont have a choice.... Regardless of how long it takes its the only way the thing MIGHT get fixed.