LA724 loader concern

[dirtworksequip]

The hyd. lines don't need to be bent to follow the curved loader arms.

 

[Harvest Moon]

dirtworksequip, nice photos. That sure is one smooth arm, at least as smooth as my straight ones. Maybe Kubotawally is a PR engineer? But yours looks like it might be welded from two halves, like a clam shell? The LA 724's bend might be more difficult to achieve... of course that doesn't excuse the wrinkles or the manufacturing it in a way that produces them.

 

[PapaPerk]

Notice folks that this "wavyness" is only present in the curved boom models. It is not possible to make a compound bend in metal without the additional metal going somewhere. We the customers asked for a curved boom and Kubota has supplied. Go take a look at the blue and green ones you will see the same conditions

Wavyness is unaccectable if the customer sees it and/or effect performance/safety. Because the consumer wants curved booms doesn't give Kubota the excuse to make rippled booms. I agree, sort of, about the bending process creating the ripples. But there's many ways to make a curved boom without yeilding your main structural member! I'd head back to the drawing board on this one and make a nice solid weldment instead. I'm sticking to my nice straight boomed LA723.

 

[David_Kb7uns]

You cannot compare the John Deere and Kubota curved booms one for one. If you look at the John Deere boom it is formed in two halves and then welded down the center. The Kubota is bent in a U shape and then welded on the bottom side. Went and looked at the 724 loader today at dealer and they waves are angular in formation like they were put there by a brake or a stamp so they just may be part of the design as some people said before when you shape something in a curve the extra metal has to go someplace. I may be wrong but it is something to think about.


David Kb7uns

 

[dirtworksequip]

That's right the Kubota boom doesn't even come close to comparing to the Deere boom. Deere took the time to design their boom for form and function. Kubota seemed to just do their boom the cheapest way they could with little reguard for how it looks. The only reason Deere even entered into this discussion is a ''I bleed orange'' engineer stepped in and stated blue and green curved booms had the same wavy steel as the Kubota's. Which isn't true. Kubota needs a redesign of their boom, but I doubt they will.

I have a friend that has a metal fab design shop. They do a lot of work for major helecopter manufacturers. I'll ask him about what he thinks of the Kubota design. Strenghts-weaknesses?
Sincerely, Dirt

 

[mark2610d]

The deere loader looks good but I will take the Japan made kubota loader (even with the waves) over the "made in china" loaders the deere compacts offer. One of the reasons I went orange was because of the Deere loaders being outsourced to China.

Mark
3240hstc 724 loader (with waves)

 

[dirtworksequip]

So now China is turning out better quality than the USA. Thats sad. Or is it just that the Deere boom is a better design?

Sincerely, Dirt

 

[canoetrpr]

Even better, the Deere CX loaders are made right here in Canada!

I have to say that seeing the Made In China on the 300X loader did turn me off when I test drove the JD 3520. There is high quality stuff that does come from China and low quality stuff from China - so a bias (me included) is not really valid .. just my 0.02.

 

[Heywood Jannockitov]

Even better, the Deere CX loaders are made right here in Canada!

Not for much longer unfortunately. The Welland plant is closing and production is shifting to Mexico. Deere probably made this decision when our dollar went to $1.10 US. Now that it is back to around $0.80 do you think they will re-think the pull-out from Canada? I doubt it.

 

[canoetrpr]

Thats really too bad. If there is a chance that some day I might upgrade to a CABBed tractor, it might be a JD and it would have been nice to have a Made In Canada part of it.