LA211 Loader from tractor that burned down. Safe to use? (Pics inside)

   / LA211 Loader from tractor that burned down. Safe to use? (Pics inside) #11  
Not heated enough to melt the hoses then not hot enough to hurt the steel. I would feel safe using it. If it is cheap enough I would get it.....JB.
 
   / LA211 Loader from tractor that burned down. Safe to use? (Pics inside)
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#12  
Great tip - I'd never stand under it either way. I'll probably only use it a couple of times a year or I wouldnt even be considering it.

I'll check and see if there is any oil in it.


Is there a cheaper source for the hoses than Kubota? Are cylinders hard to rebuild or fairly straightforward if you are mechanically inclined?
 
   / LA211 Loader from tractor that burned down. Safe to use? (Pics inside)
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Not heated enough to melt the hoses then not hot enough to hurt the steel. I would feel safe using it. If it is cheap enough I would get it.....JB.


My fear was the the hoses were a bit brittle on the braided part - is this any worry or is this because the fluid in the probably got them hotter and then they sat and rusted for a bit making them brittle.
 
   / LA211 Loader from tractor that burned down. Safe to use? (Pics inside) #14  
What about the sub frame?
 
   / LA211 Loader from tractor that burned down. Safe to use? (Pics inside) #15  
Most likely the steel used in FELs is plain carbon steel. Heating might warp it but if it didn't get hot enough to burn the hoses, then the steel isn't damaged. Heating low carbon steel to cherry red does not weaken it nor damage it for structural strength. It is done all the time to straighten bowed structural members and pressure piping.
You would need to get a real bargain in order to allow for repairing all the cylinders and replacing the hoses and fittings (hoses and fittings are not cheap). I would not be concerned with the strength of the steel and as long as it is not bowed or warped it should be ok.
 
   / LA211 Loader from tractor that burned down. Safe to use? (Pics inside) #16  
Really? That isn't just blackened paint on the boom and brackets, that's some serious heat damage.

I wouldn't bet my life on them. Not worth more than scrap value. There is a reason why OSHA makes you scrap forklift forks if somebody flame cuts a hole at the end for lifting chains. You've got an unknown heat treatment at a high stress area..
You are comparing two totally different types of steel. Forklift forks are tempered high strength steel that could be effected by heating like when cutting a hole for a shackle. I really couldn't see that weakening a forks lift capacity though because it is usually done right on the tip and no one uses just the tip of a fork for lifting a pallet. I have seen that hole made in lots of forklift forks and never has OSHA had any issue with them on any construction job I was on. Maybe if you are in Kalifornia, the land of fruits and nuts, it may happen. They have some strange laws there that none of the other 49 states have.
 
   / LA211 Loader from tractor that burned down. Safe to use? (Pics inside) #17  
I wouldn't want it but it might be OK. I'd say the back cylinders need rebuilt.
 
   / LA211 Loader from tractor that burned down. Safe to use? (Pics inside)
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Most likely the steel used in FELs is plain carbon steel. Heating might warp it but if it didn't get hot enough to burn the hoses, then the steel isn't damaged. Heating low carbon steel to cherry red does not weaken it nor damage it for structural strength. It is done all the time to straighten bowed structural members and pressure piping.
You would need to get a real bargain in order to allow for repairing all the cylinders and replacing the hoses and fittings (hoses and fittings are not cheap). I would not be concerned with the strength of the steel and as long as it is not bowed or warped it should be ok.


Would it just completely melt the hoses if it burned them based on what youre saying?

I can get it for next to nothing otherwise I wouldn't want to waste my time with it.
 
   / LA211 Loader from tractor that burned down. Safe to use? (Pics inside) #19  
Great tip - I'd never stand under it either way. I'll probably only use it a couple of times a year or I wouldnt even be considering it.
I'll check and see if there is any oil in it.
Is there a cheaper source for the hoses than Kubota? Are cylinders hard to rebuild or fairly straightforward if you are mechanically inclined?
Surplus Center should have all of the hoses if you get the right adapters, I recently got all the hoses for the loader on our B7500 (all JIC6, 1/4" hoses to the cylinders, 3/8" hoses to/from the valve) for about $175.
Hydraulics | www.surpluscenter.com

Aaron Z
 
   / LA211 Loader from tractor that burned down. Safe to use? (Pics inside) #20  
You might want to pull all the pins at the various pivot points and clean the pins as well as replace the grease zerks
 

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