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Toby3294

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Recently purchased a L 4701 with front loader and backhoe with quick hitch. It was delivered on 6/18/18. I have since then removed the backhoe and set up a quick hitch with my woods rotary cutter. Keep in mind only 8.5hrs on machine at this point. On 6/26 I took the machine down the road in 4th high range in 2 wheel drive to mow a lot I recently purchased, the tractor locked up after about 1 mile down the road when I reduced the speed. Nearly threw me off the tractor. Tried restarting it and moving it in 4wheel drive, 2wheel drive and high and low range. I even put the tractor in neutral and would still not move. Dealer picked up the tractor and cutter after notifying them I was on the road,stuck. MY question is should I take this tractor back after such an incident. Under warranty but who knows what damage was done and what problems I would have down the road after warranty. When this happened I noticed grinding noise at both the gear shift area and front axle. I am new to this forum and this is my first Kubota. Any comments or suggestions on my recourse would be appreciated. Right now I am pretty sick about it. Thanks
 
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Recently purchased a L 4701 with front loader and backhoe with quick hitch. It was delivered on 6/18/18. I have since then removed the backhoe and set up a quick hitch with my woods rotary cutter. Keep in mind only 8.5hrs on machine at this point. On 6/26 I took the machine down the road in 4th high range in 2 wheel drive to mow a lot I recently purchased, the tractor locked up after about 1 mile down the road when I reduced the speed. Nearly threw me off the tractor. Tried restarting it and moving it in 4wheel drive, 2wheel drive and high and low range. I even put the tractor in neutral and would still not move. Dealer picked up the tractor and cutter after notifying them I was on the road,stuck. MY question is should I take this tractor back after such an incident. Under warranty but who knows what damage was done and what problems I would have down the road after warranty. When this happened I noticed grinding noise at both the gear shift area and front axle. I am new to this forum and this is my first Kubota. Any comments or suggestions on my recourse would be appreciated. Right now I am pretty sick about it. Thanks

Very strange problem! That’s gotta be irritating.

I’m assuming this tractor is a manual transmission? Next question is.... are you sure you were in 2wd?

Honestly if it was my tractor I would want a new one. It’s brand new and should not have any issues... especially something like this!
 
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Yes 2wd. Happened after going about a mile on road immediately after reducing the speed. approximately 10mph. skidded about 4' nearly threw me off. Tractor is shuttle shift.
 
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Yes 2wd. Happened after going about a mile on road immediately after reducing the speed. approximately 10mph. skidded about 4' nearly threw me off. Tractor is shuttle shift.

Sounds like something sheared off in transmission. Possibly component that wasn’t tightened properly at factory. That’s a real bummer. What is dealer saying?
 
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Sounds like something sheared off in transmission. Possibly component that wasn稚 tightened properly at factory. That痴 a real bummer. What is dealer saying?

Dealer states a bearing in front axle. ordering new front axle. Still concerned about other damage down the road
 
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Dealer states a bearing in front axle. ordering new front axle. Still concerned about other damage down the road

Stupid curiosity do those axles come from the factory filled or does the dealer do that as part of their prep? Maybe someone forgot?
 
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Dealer states a bearing in front axle. ordering new front axle. Still concerned about other damage down the road

Should be fine if they are replacing front axle.

Some of the Kubotas the dealer installs one of the axles knuckles. They may have forgotten to fill axle with fluid.
 
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Does anyone know if they come filled or does dealer fill the axle?
 
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Since it is new I believe you have a very long warranty, like 5 years. I wouldn't worry about it especially if your dealer has been quick to pick it up and give you a diagnosis. Some here have talked about their dealer being so complacent once they sold a tractor it can take a month to get a diagnosis on a breakdown.
 
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Does anyone know if they come filled or does dealer fill the axle?
Dealer should be responsible for front axle fill and fluid levels should be part of the pdi.

Did you check any fluid levels after delivery? I would suggest checking everything once you get it back.
 
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With only 8.5hrs on it this is a legitimate infant mortality special case. As an arms length business decision I'd say you have every right to insist on replacing the machine lock, stock and barrel right now. Is that the right thing to do? Not so sure. As someone else mentioned, IF IT REALLY WAS the front axle that seized per dealer comment AND if they replace that entire front axle... as a practical matter I'd be OK with that if I were in your shoes. For one thing, you have a well established record of all this with a Kubota dealer and I have no doubt the Co. will back it from here on. Not to worry.

Curiosity: Where are located ? All us inherently snoopy TBN posters will be looking forward to "the rest of the story" after the machine is fixed.
 
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Now they are saying the axle was not replaced just rebuild. My understanding they where ordering a new axle. They wanted to deliver today even though I was at work. here are some pics of damaged pinion gear bearing and dont know what the other is. Keep You updated. 17583.jpg17584.jpg
 
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With the misinformation on this I have to respond. I bought my tractor from this dealership who are topnotch guys and now that I am retired, I have been helping them out picking up and delivering tractors because they are so busy. I would have been the one to pick this tractor up , but I had other deliverys. I walked by this tractor for a few days while they were getting parts, which was overnight, and watched them do all of the repairs. The mechanic working on it is top notch and really cares about his work The front pinon bearing went bad from new, so the dealership replaced the complete front tube that the bearing is pressed into and all effected bearings and gears. Toby3219, there is no problem with the axle. It was the pinion bearing and all effected parts were replaced. You have a new front unit. So get your tractor and work it and enjoy!!
 
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Seems like a rare kind of failure for a brand new tractor. Of course things happen. Be interesting to hear what the dealer says was the cause. "Went bad from new" is not an explanation but still very good of rkidd to speak up ! It seems they were on top of it and it should be OK. You've got LOTS of guarantee time left & on something like that you will know in the next 50 or 100 hrs if there is anything to be concerned about.
 
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Thank you for your feedback. I am anxious to get my tractor back. Just want to know what caused the problem and you are right about the dealership and mechanic. They have been very good in this matter.
With the misinformation on this I have to respond. I bought my tractor from this dealership who are topnotch guys and now that I am retired, I have been helping them out picking up and delivering tractors because they are so busy. I would have been the one to pick this tractor up , but I had other deliverys. I walked by this tractor for a few days while they were getting parts, which was overnight, and watched them do all of the repairs. The mechanic working on it is top notch and really cares about his work The front pinon bearing went bad from new, so the dealership replaced the complete front tube that the bearing is pressed into and all effected bearings and gears. Toby3219, there is no problem with the axle. It was the pinion bearing and all effected parts were replaced. You have a new front unit. So get your tractor and work it and enjoy!!
 
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Thank you for your feedback. I am anxious to get my tractor back. Just want to know what caused the problem and you are right about the dealership and mechanic. They have been very good in this matter.

Hard to say for sure what caused the problem. New parts can sometimes be bad, or sometimes things arent machined exactly right. Good luck with everything.
 
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Thank you for your feedback. I am anxious to get my tractor back. Just want to know what caused the problem and you are right about the dealership and mechanic. They have been very good in this matter.

I just wanted to add that I didnt mean misinformation from Toby3294. I just wanted to let everyone else on the forum know what steps were take to make his tractor right. Again good luck and enjoy your tractor for many years to come as I have mine.
 
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Update. Tractor brought back on 6/29 and have put 29hrs on it brush hogging without issues. Although very difficult to disengage 4wd. Is that normal. I have to try several times for the lever to move. Note service has been great from the dealer. Thanks for comments and input. Will update as as I use the tractor.
 
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My 2501 is tough to get out of 4wd too. Goes in easily. But due to bind in the system, will not come out. If you pick up the front end with the loader, you will see the tires turn a slight amount and the bind is gone. Shifts easily then.
 

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