Kukje and JDeere. Branson or Century owners read.

[snoboy]

OK guys I need some help here. I'm new here and no my tractor has not arrived yet. The truck thats bringing my backhoe to be mounted on my tractor and then delivered to me by the dealer broke down in Colorado then lied to the dealer saying the delay was due to the Easter holiday. SB here in about 2 days. Anyhoots Thats another story. I would ask all Branson owners to go to the Kukje Machinery web site and tell me where the John Deere tractors that they build are sold and used. Are they for the USA or an over-seas market? I need some info because I went to a JD dealer this weekend as I was pricing a Lorenz snowblower which is a brand I'm interested in. Well when I told the salesman that it will be mounted on a Branson 4020 built by Kukje, he gave me I shi--y look. I then said well its the same Co. that builds your 65-115 hp tractors and he got really baligerent with me saying "JD has never been built any where except Augusta Ga. They would never be built by Koreans". "They're lieing through their teeth" he said. I guess "they" was a reference to Kukje. I sure could use some enlightening here fellas. Not that I would go back and sling it in his face but I would like to know what these JD tractors are all about on the Kukje web sight. Thanks guys. Mike

 

[anthonyk]

I believe Kukje makes some of the JDs for europe.
Here's a link to their site, which plainly shows JDs coming off the assembly line.

http://www.kukje21.co.kr/english/index.htm


Anthony

 

[DavesTractor]

JD's are built all over the world, and that isn't a bad thing. It is my understanding the the Kukje JD's are built for the Asian market, and possibly Europe, but not for the USA.

It sounds like your salesman has a burr under his saddle. JD has had tractors built overseas for years. Yanmar is a good example.

I sell both Branson and Mahindra and it is interesting what some of the local Big 3 dealers try to imply about our products. It often backfires on them. I generally resist the temptation to beep my horn as I pass by their lot on the way to another delivery.... /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

 

[snoboy]

I agree Dave, it is'nt a bad thing. Heck I've worked manufacturing for 16 yrs. here at the Boeing Co. I am an assembly line jet builder (737s). Alot of our stuff comes from overseas. It helps us sell jets when we let other countries participate in part making. So if I dont have a problem with overseas manufacturing then why would a salesman. All I know is I'm dieing to get my tractor. I feel like a little kid waiting on Christmas. Best wishes to ya all.

 

[Whiskey]

Dave:

<font color="blue">I generally resist the temptation to beep my horn as I pass by their lot on the way to another delivery </font>

To darn funny, I ran into this big 3 thinking when I was shopping for a tractor, herd a lot of "ther tractors ain't no good" or "our's are made here and theres are made there" dribble from salesmen. I went shopping for a Yanmar in green clothing and got what I wanted but had to listion to all kinds of garbage from salesmens mouth's.

Whiskey

 

[lake_arthur]

Whiskey thanks for being honest. I'm for sure not going to cut down the big three, but I have owened 2 of the big 3 and now own a Branson and love it. It's what fit my pocketbook at the time and have been very happy with it. My first choice was the JD 790 but , when I compared apples to apples I chose the Branson. I received the same sales pitch from the JD salesman, how I was not going to have any resale value in a Branson, but I plan on keeping it till it's shot so we will just have to see.

 

[Whiskey]

Reese:

Anytime, the only reasion I wanted a "new" Yanmar was I own one of the old ones, a YM187 and I don't treat it nice at all and it always comes back for more, fluid and filters and it just keeps on tick'n.

I wanted to look at the "other than big 3" tractors but the only one even close to my location was Mahindra and he never had any of the smaller models on the lot.

Whiskey

 

[Evasive1]

I don't know where John Deere is made for sure except for what I have read on TBN. One thing I do know is that the John Deere 4710 and my Century 3045 both have the same Yanmar engine, the 4TNE88 48 horsepower.
John Deere 4710

Bet this won't make that salesman happy

 

[anthonyk]

that is exactly right.
I went to the yanmar site and checked out all the various engines.
I bought the Century, just as they switched to the Cummins, but prior to that it was the Yanmar.
The same exact one they put in the JD.

Anthony

 

[spencer200]

Any meeting I have ever been to where other brand dealers are involved. I often find that JD dealers are the deepest in denial about where there products are made and who makes them. I for one could never figure this out! /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I received the same sales pitch from the JD salesman, how I was not going to have any resale value in a Branson, but I plan on keeping it till it's shot so we will just have to see. )</font>

As long as you keep your tractors for its lifetime you have nothing to worry about. If you check out the farm equipment blue books you will find that anything besides the big 3 loose their value much more quickly and dramaticly. About %50-60 in 2-3 years verses %20-25. It sounds like a sales pitch, but it is true. Like you said, if you plan on keeping the machine its a non issue.

 

[Pacesetter300]

As I understand the Kukje made John Deeres are for the Asian market. The models they make are the small (not compact) utility tractors like the 5200 series over here. I recentluy saw an ad for a JD 5303 for an incredible price(under $13K). I checked it out because I thought it might have been made by Kukje. To my surprise all it said was "Made in India". I can stand corrected, but the only JD tractors made in the US I know of are the larger ones.

Pacesetter

 

[dancce]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">(
" you check out the farm equipment blue books you will find that anything besides the big 3 loose their value much more quickly and dramaticly. About %50-60 in 2-3 years verses %20-25. It sounds like a sales pitch, but it is true. "
)</font>

My "blue books" don't show this wide difference.
In fact the "percentage" differences are not that great.
Where the differences really show up is in actual dollars of drop. The higher the initial price is ,the more dollars drop , compared to a lower priced unit.
You can't put percentages in your pocket, but dollars, you can /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

dancce