Kubota vs John Deere

[Musclford]

Hey Guys,
Sorry I haven't responded back. Had to make a trip to Dallas to help my son move into his new house. After reading the comments from both sides, I see that I have several things to give consideration to.

The dealer in my area handles both John Deere and Kubota tractors. Since they are in the process of moving to a new location up the street, I will probably be better off waiting until they get settled in.

With my old JD-2640, I use a 7' bionic blade to spread dirt and do grading work. With my tires loaded, I can load up the blade to where I am spinning and have to start raising the blade to deinventory to keep moving material.

My question now is, is a 70 hp tractor enough? I know that 4WD is supposed to make a big difference in pulling power. Do I need to consider going bigger than 70 hp or will 4WD make enough difference in that hp range and to avoid the additional cost for more horses?

Thanks again for all the input.

Mike

4x4 makes a HUGE difference on mine, however, I don't have the weight or hp your considering... but in the SubCuts, it's like night and day when dragging a pulverizer / blade....

I'm surprised at the amount of Green responses,, I would have figured this to be a Deere forum.... hmmm....

 

[Big_Cajun]

Howdy BayouMan:

4wd equates to 40% more pulling power at the most. Expect somewhere between 20-30%. I bought an M7040DT in November and I don't regret it one bit. I know that its a little smaller than what you need, but Quality Equipment out of Crowley couldn't get me in the comparable JD 5x25 for anything near what i gave for the Kubota...BIG DIFFERENCE in $$$.

Progressive Tractor out of Opelousas (and many other locations) gave me the best deal for the tractor. After posting the question on TBN and following the advice of many and opting for the 4WD, I couldn't be happier...4wd = the win!

Just my 2 cents.

BC

 

[rickster]

Around here green cost way to much! Besides I really like orange!

 

[art]

Zetor was the mfg source for JD 2240-2840 series utilities sold in South American markets.

The JD 2840 was far from a success story with a 3000 hour chassis or engine life at max and was quickly replaced with the 2940 which gave them a better tractor. That was not one of their better products at all. Other tractors in that grouping worked better and stayed in the field with better cost to operate. The 50 and 55 series were all appreciated by there users until the next series came which they had numerous updates on. In this area the 55 series is still tight with the value of the newer series even with more hours!

 

[BarryinMN]

The JD 2840 was far from a success story with a 3000 hour chassis or engine life at max and was quickly replaced with the 2940 which gave them a better tractor.

I believe the International markets are a different spec than US. My local JD dealer seems to regularly have 2640's and 2440's in his used lineup. Anywhere from minty to beat condition. None have roll bars however. Other machines tend to go to auction & if not sold head to Mexico.

 

[JasonL]

Around here green cost way to much! Besides I really like orange!

Just couldn't help but notice you do have a little green hiding in the corner!
Jason

 

[rickster]

Just couldn't help but notice you do have a little green hiding in the corner!
Jason

You got me there! That ones for cutting the grass

 

[dan279]

Look been there 4-5 times.Here's the real scoop folks. If you have a front loader and carrying heavy loads in 4WD, but within the loader's capacity, consider the following...

For transporting heavy loads downhill, get a JD. A beveled front axle, as in a Kubota, will show abnormal wear for this application even after 200 hours of use. It will send ya to the poor house EVEN IF YOU THINK YOUR SMART AND BACK THE TRACTOR DOWN THE SLOPE! All abeveled front end is good for is in snow, or muddy ag use. That's it!

 

[dan279]

And if ya think a beveled front axle will get ya a tighter turning radius........then why doesn't Kubota install tubes in their front tires. That extra tight radius will tear the tire off the rim in snow or mud when carrying a load. It's all Bull folks. Stay away from it. Just a design not well thought thru, probably with too much Sake!

 

[texasjohn]

Thread is 2 years old....

 

[big bubba]

Sir: certainly a lot for you to wade through here, and I'll leave the JD vs K to the pundits. If you're looking at 70-90 hp and seriously looking at K, I highly recommend the Mxx40 series as mentioned by a previous post. BUT LOOK AT THE 8540 OR 9540! Advantages over the 7040? 1) Turbo 2) more pto hp 3 hyd brakes 4) heavier 5) Transmission brake (a big advantage) 5) Increased FEL and 3 pt hitch cap 6) Larger ft tires for increased FEL traction 7) available in 12 speed (aside from creeper option). The 12 speed will give you the high lift 3pt capacity to 7000+ lbs. I had the 7040 and it's an excellent tractor but too light on it's feet for my use. I went to a 8540 hyd shuttle 12speed and have never looked back. Spec out the 9540 w/cab ect (get the hyd shuttle!) and compare it with JD. I'll be there's a big price difference.
You're next jump in models would be the 95 s or x cab, but that's a big price increase. good luck bb

 

[art]

Look been there 4-5 times.Here's the real scoop folks. If you have a front loader and carrying heavy loads in 4WD, but within the loader's capacity, consider the following...

For transporting heavy loads downhill, get a JD. A beveled front axle, as in a Kubota, will show abnormal wear for this application even after 200 hours of use. It will send ya to the poor house EVEN IF YOU THINK YOUR SMART AND BACK THE TRACTOR DOWN THE SLOPE! All abeveled front end is good for is in snow, or muddy ag use. That's it!

We don't have to much level ground here in central NY, can't say we've seen your problem. Good thing you ran into it at two hundred hours so it was still under warrantee!

You didn't by any chance have an after market loader that didn't fit quite right or was way over rated for on the tractor did you?

 

[art]

And if ya think a beveled front axle will get ya a tighter turning radius........then why doesn't Kubota install tubes in their front tires. That extra tight radius will tear the tire off the rim in snow or mud when carrying a load. It's all Bull folks. Stay away from it. Just a design not well thought thru, probably with too much Sake!

Dan, I see that this is only your second post and your first was just above this one, The problems with the tires rolling off would tell me that with the right size loader and load that your tires were too soft! Nobody is installing tubes from the factory that I'm aware of at this time. Yes, they are one of the tightest turning tractors in the industry in most all of the markets they are in.

The design you are refering to has been being used for decades and has worked well and still is for many manufacturers.

That said there is no machine that is perfectly built for everyone!