Kubota M4D-071HDC12-D

[Ntb]

I'm thinking of purchasing a M4D-071HDC12-D. Anyone here have one? Any known issues? Not really a ton of information out there on it. I did see the Messick video on YouTube.

Thanks

 

[Iowa Hillbilly]

I'm also looking at this tractor and would love to hear any owner first hand experiences. It sure looks interesting to me on paper and I have worked with a number of Kubotas in the past and generally trust the brand.

 

[sea2summit]

There is a thread going right now about transmission whine.

 

[Ntb]

There is a thread going right now about transmission whine.

Thanks for pointing the thread out. I'm supposed to make a decision on the purchase today and it does give me a reason to pause. I wonder what percentage are having the issue?

 

[Borane4]

Thanks for pointing the thread out. I'm supposed to make a decision on the purchase today and it does give me a reason to pause. I wonder what percentage are having the issue?

Mine does not whine. And I like the M4. I wrote a more detailed review on OTT...

 

[Ntb]

Mine does not whine. And I like the M4. I wrote a more detailed review on OTT...

Thanks for the review, I just read it a few minutes ago.

 

[Iowa Hillbilly]

Mine does not whine. And I like the M4. I wrote a more detailed review on OTT...

What is OTT?

 

[MtnViewRanch]

What is OTT?

Orange Tractor Talk

 

[rScotty]

I'm thinking of purchasing a M4D-071HDC12-D. Anyone here have one? Any known issues? Not really a ton of information out there on it. I did see the Messick video on YouTube.

Thanks

Take a look at the current thead on the Kubota Owning & Operating Forum right here on TBN.

Kubota M4 Utility Tractor Transmission Whine

Everyone, I have a Kubota M4 (M4D-071HDC12) utility tractor I bought back in 2019. I like the tractor very much, but when the tractor is working for an hour and the transmission oil gets hot, the transmission will start whining when the tractor is stopped. This have been happening six months...

www.tractorbynet.com

In the first message is a video where you can hear the noise plainly. And then several pages of discussion from people who seem to know. So far it doesn't appear to have had any negative effects other than heating the hydraulic fluid....and the rather loud noise, of course.

I've been following along from a interest in mechanics and hydraulics professionally - and apparently others have too.
Kubota is aware and seems to be working hard to fix it at several levels - but so far without success. Several current owners of M4s are weighing in on this & don't seem to be concerned. Other than that, they do like the tractor.

Frankly, if I was buying one I'd want that issue and some sort of resolution agreement written right there into the buying contract. And I might just include a time limit. But that's just me and the way I do business.

As it sits this week, the noise is something they expect Kubota to take care of completely.
We'll have to see.....It wouldn't stop me from getting serious about what looks like otherwise a good tractor.
just sayin'
rScotty

 

[Ntb]

Take a look at the current thead on the Kubota Owning & Operating Forum right here on TBN.

Kubota M4 Utility Tractor Transmission Whine

Everyone, I have a Kubota M4 (M4D-071HDC12) utility tractor I bought back in 2019. I like the tractor very much, but when the tractor is working for an hour and the transmission oil gets hot, the transmission will start whining when the tractor is stopped. This have been happening six months...

www.tractorbynet.com

In the first message is a video where you can hear the noise plainly. And then several pages of discussion from people who seem to know. So far it doesn't appear to have had any negative effects other than heating the hydraulic fluid....and the rather loud noise, of course.

I've been following along from a interest in mechanics and hydraulics professionally - and apparently others have too.
Kubota is aware and seems to be working hard to fix it at several levels - but so far without success. Several current owners of M4s are weighing in on this & don't seem to be concerned. Other than that, they do like the tractor.

Frankly, if I was buying one I'd want that issue and some sort of resolution agreement written right there into the buying contract. And I might just include a time limit. But that's just me and the way I do business.

As it sits this week, the noise is something they expect Kubota to take care of completely.
We'll have to see.....It wouldn't stop me from getting serious about what looks like otherwise a good tractor.
just sayin'
rScotty

I have read and reread the thread. At this point I think I'm going to pass on the M4D-071HDC12-D. I just don't want the down time, the back and forth and the trouble that goes with it. I like a lot about the M4, but for my use, a MX6000 can work too.
Thank You

 

[Hozzie]

Why not go with the M7060. Essentially same tractor with different transmission and proven reliability. There are very few differences unless you have to have a buddy seat or a couple of other small items. It actually has slightly more PTO HP. Took 5 months though for my new one to get here but I custom ordered with a lot of options.

 

[sea2summit]

That's what I'd recommend^

Or an M5. I really should have gone with an M5 but I limited myself to my ability to transport it with the equipment I had at the time and the M4 maxed me out.

 

[Iowa Hillbilly]

Why not go with the M7060.

For me the creeper gear is a must have, but it doesn't appear to be offered on the M7060. I would think for many people the M7060 would be a great alternative.

 

[Hozzie]

For me the creeper gear is a must have, but it doesn't appear to be offered on the M7060. I would think for many people the M7060 would be a great alternative.

It has the option for a creeper gear. Mine brand new one has it. And it's cheaper than the creeper gear for the M4D by a few hundred dollars.

This is exactly what I ordered.

> M7060HDC12 - 4WD TRACTOR W/12 SPEED HYDRAULIC SHUTTLE & CAB
>
> FRONT LSW320/70R24 GDYR R14T
> REAR LSW420/75R34 GDYR R14T
>
> 1 2ND POSITION LEVER KIT
> HYDRAULIC FLOAT DETENT (FD)
>
> 1 REAR WINDOW WIPER KIT W/WASHER
>
> 1 3RD FUNCTION VALVE KIT CAB
>
> 1 FRONT LOADER (2 LEVER TYPE QUICK COUPLER)
>
> 1 HIGH CAPACITY ALTERNATOR KIT
>
> 1 AIR RIDE SEAT SUSPENSION UPGRADE KIT
>
> 1 AIR RIDE SEAT WIRE HARNESS
>
> 1 STANDARD VALVE KIT FOR CAB
>
> 1 CREEP SPEED KIT

 

[rScotty]

By now I'm getting confused about the differences between the M4 and M5, M6000 & M7060. Why so many models? Are the differences significant? I'm missing something here.
rScotty
M59

 

[sea2summit]

By now I'm getting confused about the differences between the M4 and M5, M6000 & M7060. Why so many models? Are the differences significant? I'm missing something here.
rScotty
M59

M4 is the deluxe version of the 7060, all the bells and whistles. Think of the 7060 as a F250 and the M4 is the King Ranch edition, gives up a few PTO HP as trade off.

M5 is the next step up for engine size.

M6000 and 7060 are just different engines.

 

[rScotty]

M4 is the deluxe version of the 7060, all the bells and whistles. Think of the 7060 as a F250 and the M4 is the King Ranch edition, gives up a few PTO HP as trade off.

M5 is the next step up for engine size.

M6000 and 7060 are just different engines.

Thanks. That makes sense.
rScotty

thankfully our F250 doesn't read TBN.

 

[Iowa Hillbilly]

It has the option for a creeper gear. Mine brand new one has it. And it's cheaper than the creeper gear for the M4D by a few hundred dollars.

This is exactly what I ordered.

> M7060HDC12 - 4WD TRACTOR W/12 SPEED HYDRAULIC SHUTTLE & CAB
>
> FRONT LSW320/70R24 GDYR R14T
> REAR LSW420/75R34 GDYR R14T
>
> 1 2ND POSITION LEVER KIT
> HYDRAULIC FLOAT DETENT (FD)
>
> 1 REAR WINDOW WIPER KIT W/WASHER
>
> 1 3RD FUNCTION VALVE KIT CAB
>
> 1 FRONT LOADER (2 LEVER TYPE QUICK COUPLER)
>
> 1 HIGH CAPACITY ALTERNATOR KIT
>
> 1 AIR RIDE SEAT SUSPENSION UPGRADE KIT
>
> 1 AIR RIDE SEAT WIRE HARNESS
>
> 1 STANDARD VALVE KIT FOR CAB
>
> 1 CREEP SPEED KIT

That's good to hear that a creep range is available. Could you post the speeds in creep range? Can you use the creep for all 12 gears?

 

[Iowa Hillbilly]

That's good to hear that a creep range is available. Could you post the speeds in creep range? Can you use the creep for all 12 gears?

I was able to find a pdf of the operators manual that gives the speeds. Here's a screenshot for anyone else who might be interested.