Kubota L3901 HST vs. Kioti 4010SE HST Compact Tractor Pricing

[Carl_NH]

Looks like the Kubota with BH is right about list - and less 10% would be $33,500 range.

 

[RSR]

Dang have prices really went up that much. $29k for an economy L just don't seem right. What does kubotas website say msrp is on how it's configured?

15 years ago I bought the predecessor to the 3901. Which was the L3400. It was $17k out the door. HST was a $2000 option. So $19k. Which would be like $17k pre-tax. I know things get more expensive, inflation and all....but dang....70% in 15 years?

They've gone up noticeably just in the last couple of years. When I was shopping less than 2 years ago, I got a quote on cabbed DK42SE for right about 30k. I think the pandemic likely has a lot to do with it (low availability).

I also wonder if a lot of people suddenly getting their stimulus checks may be driving demand too.

Off topic, but I'd wonder if waiting 6 months or so could yield a better deal. With the large Kubota dealership owning everything around, as mentioned, they might be a little more impervious to monthly fluctuations in supply and demand.

 

[airbiscuit]

 

[rademamj1]

RSR made a good point, right now is peak buying season for tractors and Ag equipment. I know for sure, tractor dealers here in Texas are selling with less than 50 day inventory on their lot. If your willing to wait until September, you could expect more significant discounts off MSRP from both Kioti and Kubota on tractors and implements.

 

[nbking]

I did look at a comparable Kioti when I was shopping. I did like the seating area, seemed bigger and more space, plus it had mirrors, and some extra stuff the Kubota didn't have. But I really liked the seating area on the Kubota, everything seemed like it was in the right spot for me, Didn't have to reach out for things, I really like the treadle pedal, especially with the hst. The hump doesn't bother me, only thing sometimes when I have boots on, my foot will kind of get hung up on the clutch pedal when getting off. I have the third function installed, land pride one. Its definitely awesome.

 

[m1garand762]

@RSR, Kubota tractor, with loader, 3rd function, is about $29000. Kioti tractor, with loader, 3rd function, is about $24000.
If you add the backhoe, Kubota is $37500, Kioti is $31000. It's approximate, plus minus couple hundred, wasn't sure how to apply rebates partially.
Kubota with backhoe should have at least 1 remote, I saw that you can configure them individually online. Most likely they just put on it what's needed for the backhoe. I guess one remote is plenty for a compact tractor anyhow, not sure which attachments you would need 2 remotes ...
The rest of the difference up to $13000 is from the other attachments.

You can do better on the kubota shop around I got my 3901 loader bucket level kit cruise loaded tires deluxe canopy for $25200 in October and my backhoe and bucket for $7200 in January third function is a half hour install available for that tractor as a kit from summit hydraulics for less than the dealer wants for the landpride kit

 

[s219]

That Kubota price seems awful high, like they are not trying to discount. I have always gotten about 15-20% discount from MSRP. Of course, now there is more demand than supply, so maybe they can charge whatever they want.

Have you test driven both tractors? Be sure to do that. It's always a tragedy when someone new comes on the forum only looking at paper specs and numbers (but the Kubota price would still have to come down a lot to make it competitive).

 

[art]

With getting to know equipment and what proper balance is and appropriate weights are for machines you can get confused. I was looking at the Land pride grapple that I wanted and found out that I can buy generic units for less then half as a dealer. Things that happened in my quest because I have only one job for it and when it is done it might sit for years. After talking to the wholesaler and telling him of my dilemma and trying to make a good decision the cheaper one was over two hundred lbs heavier! That's a loser on payload! The wholesaler even told me about the land pride AR 400 steel and it's strength! I went to a construction equipment auction that had two of his units available that were new! It was easy to get excited seeing all the metal although I knew it was going to be a disadvantage. When looking at one of the points I noticed it was bent. Looking closer it had a mark on the outside of a pallet fork and the point was bent in about three inches. All that thick heavy metal? Sure wasn't heat treated in anyway!!! Buying the Land Pride for double the money so I don't have to worry about the weight as well as the machines strength. There are reasons why some things are cheaper!!!

 

[meackerman]

I know my local Kubota dealer has more demand than supply. They're selling tractors before they even get them in. Not much reason for the dealer to discount them in a market like that.

 

[Miguel00]

This is DocTrac, new to the forum, checked this out and so much awesome info! About to pull the trigger on a compact tractor ...

Here's the situation: just received pricing for both Kubota L3901 HST and Kioti 4010SE HST compact tractors. Attachments and implements: tractor, 3rd function, canopy, backhoe, grapple, pallet fork, rotary cutter, box blade, disc harrow, rotary tiller. The configuration is virtually identical, I was very careful to match implements for both offers, e.g. shredders are both 2", 5', heavy-duty. I was shocked by the price difference: the Kubota dealer quoted a price that is $13,000 higher than the Kioti. That's thirteen thousand. Can somebody explain to me how this is possible???

DocTrac, I'm no master tractor guru by any stretch and only run my Kioti 3510SE HST (same tractor as 4010 with lower hydraulic flow rate but $1200 cheaper) on the occasional weekend over the last three years (150 hrs to date) but I have no regrets buying a Kioti. I found the same price shock as you in 2017. I think Kubota makes a quality tractor but your paying a premium for the name given their good track record. What eventually sealed the deal for me was realizing both Kioti and Kubota are made in South Korea and both companies make 99%+ of their own parts\components in-house vs. sub-contracting things out all over the place. Just my opinion this makes for a better product with less problems over time but it also means when you go to buy replacement parts their made by the parent company not by whoever in another country. That said, if you have a Kubota dealer near by you like and trust thats a big selling point over a Kioti dealer 100+ miles away. Good luck.

 

[crlf]

Dang have prices really went up that much. $29k for an economy L just don't seem right. What does kubotas website say msrp is on how it's configured?

15 years ago I bought the predecessor to the 3901. Which was the L3400. It was $17k out the door. HST was a $2000 option. So $19k. Which would be like $17k pre-tax. I know things get more expensive, inflation and all....but dang....70% in 15 years?

The new CPI is a larger lie than the old CPI: Alternate Inflation Charts

 

[gr8scott72]

Found silimar when shopping a couple months ago. Ended up going with a Bobcat CT2025 (white Kioti CK2610) because it was over $5000 cheaper than the best price I could get on the Kubota L2501. (just loader and tractor)

 

[PuffyC]

15 years ago I bought the predecessor to the 3901. Which was the L3400. It was $17k out the door. HST was a $2000 option. So $19k. Which would be like $17k pre-tax. I know things get more expensive, inflation and all....but dang....70% in 15 years?

That's only about 3.5% a year. You look at real inflation, especially the price of steel, and that's probably not out of line.

 

[svitale]

I have a Kubota B26 and before that a B21 (Both are essentially the same except the 26 is newer). I think the HST transmission is great and the machine is very reliable even under severe abuse. I know the Kubota dealers are outrageously priced for both new or used models. Both of my machines were bought used and I would suggest you do the same. I suggest you buy a Kubota just because I know it is such a great machine. However, consider getting one at an auction or used (try Rock and Dirt magazine). Last month I almost bought a B39 at an online auction for $14k. The only reason I stopped short from buying it was that I did not really need one larger than the B26 I already have. The only caution I give you is to assure that it does not leak oil from the rear axil seal. That is caused by a grit of sand getting into the axil seal and it results in a $3500 repair because in order to get to the seal, the transmission needs to be split.

 

[Henry Island Guy]

I had a similar situation last year. After all the research, I was ready to pull the trigger on the Kioti, for all the features and price. Then I saw that Bobcat was making tractors again, or should I say, selling tractors again, because their tractors are made by Kioti and only differed in color and a slightly different loader. Slightly less capacity than the Kioti, but way more than the Kubota. At the time they were adding the Loader for free. So it was another 3-4k cheaper than the Kioti!

So in the end, I was able to get my Bobcat with all the implements I wanted for less than the price of the bare Kubota and a few thousand less than the Kioti. I have been very pleased with it so far. The dealer was very accommodating, even went to the LS dealer to pick up a grapple for me. (Bobcat's was too heavy).

I hate to mix things up for you, but thought you might consider it. If it is the Orange that attracts you....the Bobcat has Orange wheels!

 

[Logan979]

This is DocTrac, new to the forum, checked this out and so much awesome info! About to pull the trigger on a compact tractor ...

Here's the situation: just received pricing for both Kubota L3901 HST and Kioti 4010SE HST compact tractors. Attachments and implements: tractor, 3rd function, canopy, backhoe, grapple, pallet fork, rotary cutter, box blade, disc harrow, rotary tiller. The configuration is virtually identical, I was very careful to match implements for both offers, e.g. shredders are both 2", 5', heavy-duty. I was shocked by the price difference: the Kubota dealer quoted a price that is $13,000 higher than the Kioti. That's thirteen thousand. Can somebody explain to me how this is possible???

what is the FEL capacity of the two ? I know the K 3901 is week compared to a similar Rural King tractor

 

[tradosaurus]

@RSR, Kubota tractor, with loader, 3rd function, is about $29000. Kioti tractor, with loader, 3rd function, is about $24000.
If you add the backhoe, Kubota is $37500, Kioti is $31000. It's approximate, plus minus couple hundred, wasn't sure how to apply rebates partially.
Kubota with backhoe should have at least 1 remote, I saw that you can configure them individually online. Most likely they just put on it what's needed for the backhoe. I guess one remote is plenty for a compact tractor anyhow, not sure which attachments you would need 2 remotes ...
The rest of the difference up to $13000 is from the other attachments.

You might want to consider the 20% Equine Discount with the Kubota. That $29K for the L3901 with loader and 3rd function seems ridiculously high.

I just paid $32K out the door for an MX5400 HST, heavy duty loader, two rear remotes, 3rd function, QH15 quick hitch, filled rear tires, and two grab hooks on the bucket.

 

[teeauu]

It's actually not surprising at all.

My own experience shopping was I saved $20K by not buying a green colored tractor.

It happens.

Some will "justify" (trying to be polite) the difference as "brand recognition", or "resale value", etc, etc. That may be more or less important for each individual, depending on their needs and wants. I was happy to keep that $20K in my pocket. I can buy a LOT of "resale value" with that. If you're flipping your tractors and equipment (I mean buying and selling) every 5 years or so, then maybe resale value might be a factor for you. If you're going to keep it "forever", then maybe you don't care so much about that?

Other factors, dealer support, parts availability over long period of years, all can play a factor. Choose what's most important to "you" and stick to that.

Funny thing is, I would have BOUGHT that green tractor on the spot, IF they had one on the lot, and IF the dealership staff would have acted like I was a customer and they wanted my business. I guess (?) it all worked out the way it was supposed to?

I had the same thing happen when I bought my Kubota, after the John Deere salesman pretty much said "Oh we sell them for list price, if you don't like it go find another brand".

 

[Tony H]

This is DocTrac, new to the forum, checked this out and so much awesome info! About to pull the trigger on a compact tractor ...

Here's the situation: just received pricing for both Kubota L3901 HST and Kioti 4010SE HST compact tractors. Attachments and implements: tractor, 3rd function, canopy, backhoe, grapple, pallet fork, rotary cutter, box blade, disc harrow, rotary tiller. The configuration is virtually identical, I was very careful to match implements for both offers, e.g. shredders are both 2", 5', heavy-duty. I was shocked by the price difference: the Kubota dealer quoted a price that is $13,000 higher than the Kioti. That's thirteen thousand. Can somebody explain to me how this is possible???

Wow big number. Thanks to you and the responses, you all did my homework for me. I just wanted to point out that apparently the front axle bearings do not hold up if you use the front bucket with heavy stuff. I've replaced spindle bearing twice on friends 3000 series 'bota. And once on another friend's 'bota. So that's a strike against Kabota. This is from use, NOT abuse of the front bucket.

 

[LOWTECH]

This is DocTrac, new to the forum, checked this out and so much awesome info! About to pull the trigger on a compact tractor ...

Here's the situation: just received pricing for both Kubota L3901 HST and Kioti 4010SE HST compact tractors. Attachments and implements: tractor, 3rd function, canopy, backhoe, grapple, pallet fork, rotary cutter, box blade, disc harrow, rotary tiller. The configuration is virtually identical, I was very careful to match implements for both offers, e.g. shredders are both 2", 5', heavy-duty. I was shocked by the price difference: the Kubota dealer quoted a price that is $13,000 higher than the Kioti. That's thirteen thousand. Can somebody explain to me how this is possible???

Paying for the brand name. If you plan to trade frequently the Kubota holds it's value a bit better. The Kioti dealers are sometimes not held to as high a standard but that is a local market consideration. Go with the dealer you like best.