billyo my advice is to stay away from JD period. My neighbors are green fans or should I say WERE green fans until they brought their junk to me for repair because they couldn't afford Dealer labor rates and parts. I hear alot of gumbling with members over Kubota parts pricing but wait until you get into a Deere. Enough said. I own an L2600DT forerunner of the new 2800. It's a rich man's poor man's tractor. My neighbors said no more green after they have seen my annual cost with my Kubotas.