Kioti vs Kubota Quality - No Empirical Evidence

[jyoutz]

My top and tilt cylinders leaked down years ago when I first put them on.
I replaced those cylinders with top/tilt cylinders that have the piloted check vale.
Never leaked down again, been on there for over 2 decades, never leak down.

Couldn’t those be added inline without replacing the cylinder?

 

[ncridgerunner1]

I'm about an hour west of Asheville. More if I were to drive the tractor - LOL.

Hope you escaped Helene with minimal damage. We had major damage here and is why I need a tractor larger than my BX. Got the house repaired but still have hundreds of trees down. Been having "fun" dealing with FEMA today.

 

[DK35vince]

Couldn’t those be added inline without replacing the cylinder?

I think they can be, but I never really looked into it.

 

[Oaktree]

In my case, the Kioti dealer was further away and had a fly by night appearing operation, while the Kubota dealer was long established with full service availability. I’m sure this varies by location.

Can't always judge a book by its cover. Kioti dealer here is a fairly small, family operation and doesn't make a great first impression driving by, but they've been in business for 30+ years and have a good rep. I don't have any experience with their service dept (mine's never needed any repairs I couldn't do myself), but they started out as a tractor repair outfit and expanded from there.
Always pleasant to deal with.

 

[ptsg]

Couldn’t those be added inline without replacing the cylinder?

Yes. You can get the double pilot check valve kit for your cylinder.

Hydraulic Valves | Agristore USA | Indianapolis, IN

www.agristoreusa.com

 

[Too many Kubotas]

A leaking tilt cyl is a PIA. Almost all of mine have had this issue over the years Have to remember to bump the lever every 30 minutes....

Guess I'm spoiled by the M6040's top and tilts that seem to stay put for a small eternity.

 

[scootr]

Guess I'm spoiled by the M6040's top and tilts that seem to stay put for a small eternity.

Mine are aftermarket. Maybe yours are factory quality?

 

[jyoutz]

Mine are aftermarket. Maybe yours are factory quality?

Mine were installed by a Kubota dealer. I assumed they are factory quality, but I should probably look at them to see.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

Mine are aftermarket. Maybe yours are factory quality?

In this context, L3800 remote valves, the words factory and quality don't go together. At all.

It was those crappy valves that made me join this forum, and I intended to vent about the subject. Much like I intended to get an aftermarket setup to replace them with.

So instead of whining about them then, I'm still whining about them (to myself) every time I use that tractor. Now those pilot valves mentioned by ptsg are looking quite appealing.

 

[Ingerdeere]

As long as we're all being friendly and just talking here, your question has been raised many times before by many extremely experienced operators and mechanics and as just a non-commercial owner with both a 2010s-ish Kioti hydro-cab-loader and an early 2000's Kubota Direct drive loader, I'll say there have been no problems with Kioti...comfortable to the point I enjoy running rotary & finish mowers for long periods
of time and the loader lift has never disappointed. I trust the earlier model Kubota more b/c limited electronics and with direct drive just hauls the mail when using ground engaging attachements.
To Summerize.......for personal comfort, no brainer operation, enjoyable operation......New Kioti. If I could only own 1 and I had to make a living with it.....Kubota for O.E.M parts availability, more dealers & service departments, applicability of older model used parts on newer model tractors. BUT....really like them both for what they are used for.....definately liked the price of the Kioti better....but I'm not beating it up to make a deadline or a dollar. Hope this helps.