Ke3d revisited

[yanmar4life]

Well said Hosejockey, knowlege is power! That is what we come here for is knowlege about the tractors as well as the people marketing them.

Machinefarm, I like my yanmar and this forum. I just responded to a thread that was started by RWM, the content of which was not very relevent or useful, but entertaining, so I think I will stick around, if that annoys you don't waste your time continuing to read.

As for the two Roberts, tell us this: Why sell tractors that are in Idaho (see your ebay listing) if you are in San Diego? Is the guy in San Diego an alter ego for the guy in Idaho, or are they one in the same, email addresses don't mean nothing and there is no question these are the exact same tractors we are talking about. Something sure seems fishy about all of this. The "I am not going to share my knowlege with you now because my feelings are hurt" thing does not work very well. My point was that the information previously promised was never delivered. Many times someone has asked about the Hot Rod engine switch and you have never responded. Now you tell us that you were going to until this thread popped up and you got your panties in a twist over it.

I have nothing against the hot rod 1500 or the Ke3d, but I think we all want more information shared here about them instead of complaining about what is said here. Quit taking it all so personal, if you really intended to participate and share information you would have done so. We also take what is said here and in other places as an evaluation of people selling tractors. Many dealers have been questioned and evaluated here. Most answer up within reason instead of becoming competely defensive. It does not seem that you have been scrutinized all that much here compared to others, and most have answered up without to much problem.

 

[bruce1966us]

I think it is to the point to ask the question (who really cares about this thread).

Thanks,
Bruce Laten
(931) 455-6999
www.yanmartractors.com

 

[BrettW]

Even inquiring mind dont want to know.

 

[BTI]

Amen Bruce!!!!!!
BTI

 

[normde2001]

Yanmar4life, you should be embarrassing yourself about now, because I'm sure the rest of us are becoming embarrassed for you.

 

[roger_scotty]

OOps, it looks to me like we have a case of mistakes being made in spite of good intentions. Yanmar4life wasn't trying to promote his own intersts, just trying to protect the rest of us. Unfortunately it looks like he blindsided the wrong guy. RWM, I've got to take my hat off to you and say thanks for your restrained and measured response. Shows real style. I hope nobody goes away because of this. The grey market is a tricky place and all of us know that we value and need our good dealers....but the market being what it is we also need watchdogs. I figure that we are going to make some mistakes getting the system worked out, so everybody please hang in there.

 

[BrettW]

Remember this one when it is time to vote for "thread of the year".

 

[Anonymous Poster]

I just want to say that this discussion board has some quality
people who seem to have some real knowledge. I will have questions in the future and will definitley look to those of you for help and guidance. I hope I can give some as well.

Thanks,
Robert

 

[yanmar4life]

Norm,

No I don't feel that I have embarrassed myself and I hope no one else feels that way. Most of you have probably not spent the time researching this debacle so I understand. No hard feelings either way.

Thanks Roger for understanding my intentions. Given my location I have had contact with a number of grey market dealers, some excellent, some not. I saw this thread originally and flamed because there is some obvious deception going on. This is my LAST (I promise) comment about all of this to everyone to DO YOUR RESEARCH CAREFULLY and you will not be hurt. I understand that some of the eastern people would not be effected by any of this due to location, but out here in the west this could be a big deal due to the limited number of people dealing, that was my only purpose in all of my posts about this thread, to give some awareness as to what is going on. Buyer beware, I may have been burned once, but you don't have to be!

So sorry if I offended anyone.

 

[Inspector507]

Just saw an ad on ebay and put some things together. I had to drag this back up and stir the pot so to speak.......
"Bob" aka tractorlet here, of Tractor Outlet from Idaho said he does not sell on Ebay. Everyone was confusing him with RWM aka robnwan on Ebay, who does. Check the phone number on Tractor Outlet's website <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.copsrus.com/tractors>Tractor Outlet</A> . And then check out the phone number posted on Ebay by robnwan in the attached photo.

I think somone ought to sue for stealing the name AND phone number /w3tcompact/icons/grin.gif

 

[Anonymous Poster]

Inspector, you figured it out (when put on ebay I expected it). I am my fathers son. I live in San Diego & am a micro chip engineer for a local company. I get tractors from my father and sell them on Ebay.

Explaining this to you is a courtesy that I did not feel obligated to explain to some guy(Yanmar4life) who was calling me names from behind his computer screen. Oh well, he is a little sharper than his writings appear he just kept saying I was someone I am not and I still say he is a mis-guided individual who never had his facts straight. Now the record is straight.

Oh well, I am sure that this will excite some people who have nothing better to do than sit on a tractor chat room and worry about who is selling what.

By the way, I sold the ke3d to a very happy man who got a one year warranty but probably won't need it.

It has been weeks since I posted anything but this was sent to me by way of email. I am sure this will stir the pot for a day or two so have at it.

Regards,
Robert B. Michael Father of 3
Son of Robert M. Michael owner of Tractor Outlet in Idaho
Son of John Michael Deceased

 

[rtimgray]

You know, Yanmar4life came very close in a couple of posts to figuring out the "trick" to that you revealed in this post, and although I remained quite, I too thought that something was fishy, what with identical pictures and such. I am just curious what the motivation for not coming clean in the early stages was - I suppose it would be fun to stir up several folks all the while. It reminds me a bit of the folks that sell Yanmars and say "They're the same as a John Deere" or sell Chinese tractors and say "They're made in Asia-Just like a Yanmar". There is usually a shred of truth in these statements that save them from being outright lies (except maybe the JD-Yanmar thing), and I don't think that either of the Bobs in question told a lie in this thread. It just appears that they weren't too forthcoming with the truth.

Now, since that is out in the open, I would say good catch to Inspector for the discovery (good handle, eh?) and kudos to Yanmar4life for spotting something that was off center to start with. Maybe now we can rest easy knowing that the mystery of the Ke3d is solved

"..and I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for you meddling kids!!"

Take it easy

Tim Gray