Just got new Kioti Tractor

[joefromga]

Hello,

I just picked up my new NX4510HST Cab Tractor Loader, Backhoe.

It's amazing so far but I haven't really used it yet.

I got the extra hydraulics but am not sure how to use it yet.

I would like to have to have the option of a thumb on the backhoe and/or a grapple bucket if I get one. What else would I need the hydraulic for? There are 4 ports on the back and two are connected to the backhoe. The other two aren't connected so I'm assuming those are they. But, where are the controls for them?

I'm new to hydros so this is a learning experience for me. I've used rented equipment a lot but never needed to hook anything up before. I'm coming from an old Ford 8N used mostly for bushhogging and box blading and brush clearing so this will be fun.

Got the cab with A/C and heat. Is this even considered work??

 

[Thomas]

Welcome to TBN.
Nice...darn nice looking investment,and your bones muscle will thank you in years to come.

 

[Wagtail]

G'day Mate and welcome to TBN from Downunder.

Enjoy the site and your new tractor.

Although I'm not familiar with Kioti, the other two 'ports' could be operated/activated via a button on the FEL's joystick. In any case, read your Owners Manual front-to-back and take things slow... even after you're 'used to' your machine. And have FUN!

 

[Threepoint]

Congratulations on the tractor, and welcome to TBN. To the right of the FEL joystick, on the side console. are three slots intended for the control levers of up to three sets of rear remote hydraulic valves. Your tractor evidently has two sets of rear remotes installed. Are there control levers in two of the slots?

 

[TripleR]

Congratulations, that is a really nice tractor. I use my rear remotes for Top-and-Tilt and hydraulic rippers. I don't know about Kioti, but my levers are on the right fender. I can't get the picture to load.

 

[joefromga]

Congratulations on the tractor, and welcome to TBN. To the right of the FEL joystick, on the side console. are three slots intended for the control levers of up to three sets of rear remote hydraulic valves. Your tractor evidently has two sets of rear remotes installed. Are there control levers in two of the slots?

Yes, there are 3 slots. Two have levers in them. One has a sticker that shows a cylinder on top and one on bottom. It seems like that's flow direction but I don't know. The second has no sticker but I can hear the pump working if I try to move it. I'm assuming that's C and D valve.

The manual isn't clear on this and I don't know why you'd want to reverse flow but I'm sure there are reasons.

I'm also not clear on what I can do with these extra valves and let's say I add a thumb, would I need a control for them? Or would the thumb use some type switch or what?

And, could I use the same thing for front grapple if I get a bucket with one?
Thanks for the advice.

 

[k0ua]

You could just hook to your extra C/D remote outlets and run hoses up to the torque tube (crossmember) on your loader for hydraulic hook ups on the front of the tractor and control it from the valve you already have. You may or may not think it convenient to operate that way, but it sure is cheap. On my older machine the valve was convenient to operate with my fingers while my hand is on the joystick. See photos below.



Of course you can install either a diverter of a full 3rd function valve to operate your thumb with if you like but you will incur much more expense but it may be more to your liking convenience wise.

The Icons showing a cylinder retracted or extended near your valve levers are for you information to show you which way to throw the lever for which function either to extend or retract a cylinder. Keep in mind that the way you hook up the hoses of course will affect the outcome, as the hoses are interchangeable. If you reverse the hose hookup the flow direction will be reversed in relation to the direction the lever is moved.

Here is how I hooked up for my front Grapple
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...-quick-connects-loader-torque.html?highlight=

 

[joefromga]

You could just hook to your extra C/D remote outlets and run hoses up to the torque tube (crossmember) on your loader for hydraulic hook ups on the front of the tractor and control it from the valve you already have. You may or may not think it convenient to operate that way, but it sure is cheap. On my older machine the valve was convenient to operate with my fingers while my hand is on the joystick. See photos below.

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Of course you can install either a diverter of a full 3rd function valve to operate your thumb with if you like but you will incur much more expense but it may be more to your liking convenience wise.

The Icons showing a cylinder retracted or extended near your valve levers are for you information to show you which way to throw the lever for which function either to extend or retract a cylinder. Keep in mind that the way you hook up the hoses of course will affect the outcome, as the hoses are interchangeable. If you reverse the hose hookup the flow direction will be reversed in relation to the direction the lever is moved.

Here is how I hooked up for my front Grapple
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...-quick-connects-loader-torque.html?highlight=

Thanks for the reply.

I see you have a joystick and a valve in front of that. I don't have that on mine. The second control lever is in the picture and I'm assuming that would apply pressure to the C/D set?

For the front Grapple that would work, I guess up for close, down for open?

But what if I add a thumb to the backhoe? Doesn't the second lever I have just open up the port pushing fluid through the hoses? How do you control a thumb in that case? I would assume you have to get another lever that then controls the thumb or have a switch that control it electronically?

 

[k0ua]

Thanks for the reply.

I see you have a joystick and a valve in front of that. I don't have that on mine. The second control lever is in the picture and I'm assuming that would apply pressure to the C/D set?

For the front Grapple that would work, I guess up for close, down for open?

But what if I add a thumb to the backhoe? Doesn't the second lever I have just open up the port pushing fluid through the hoses? How do you control a thumb in that case? I would assume you have to get another lever that then controls the thumb or have a switch that control it electronically?

That would depend on how you hook up the remote Quick Disconnects

Using your remote with its lever place where it is on your model would not be of much use for operating a thumb on your backhoe. I would assume you would be sitting in the backhoe seat, and not near that valve. You would need a second valve placed conveniently near the backhoe sticks or a electric over hydraulic valve you could operate your thumb from. Which is pretty much what you said above. When I was thinking of "thumb" earlier , I was thinking of an add on bucket "thumb" for the FEL bucket. There is a brand named just that. But you are thinking about a thumb for your backhoe.

 

[TBN Support]

Welcome to the forum and congrats on your new tractor! :thumbsup:

I'm going to move your thread on over to the Kioti section so we can keep it going.