John Deere 110

bushy · Jul 27, 2002

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I was using my loader this morning and noticed it settling big time. It had a half load of gravel in, I had to keep picking it up. Don't like that. Have you had any troubles since getting your cylinders fixed? How did that go, John Deere replace both lift cylinders? I'll have to bring that to the dealer's attention monday a. Bushy

Anonymous Poster · Jul 27, 2002

Was speaking with a Deere dealer yesterday about a what he thought about possible problems with leakdown on a top and tilt. He said the problem usually wasn't in the cylinders, but rather with the values. He said the larger tractors had higher precision valves and therefore didn't have leakdown problems like the CUTs.

Wouldn't have believed that except that on a post somewhere else on this site, the leakdown specs that are listed in a post are smaller with every step up in tractor.

Tags · Jul 30, 2002

Bushy,
How did you make out at the dealer??That sounds exactly like what mine was doin',get it taken care of as soon as you can,cause if it's the same thing on yours that it was on mine,I'm sure it may be happening to others also.It can also cause some unsafe conditions while runnin' the machine,like if you went to swap attachments out front and your foot gets stuck under the bucket......not good.They only replaced one cylender on mine,the one that had rust in the barrel,the other one was fine.Hope it turns out okay,keep me posted.

acbellnj · Aug 1, 2002

Hello Gentlemen,
I have read through a number of different threads on the 110s and 4710s and am now leaning towards the 110. I will be using it to help out with building my new home, and then to maintain the 15 acres with more clearing and mowing of the pastures. I like the e-hydro features of the 4710 for the mowing and the lower price, but am afraid of damaging the loader and bucket with heavy use in the beginning of the project as I have read of a number of people who have broken the loaders or hoes. So, from your experience with your new 110s, how suseptible do you think these will be do braking something from heavy use? Also, I read the thread on the 4710's 4-in-1 controls, could someone explain how the controls work on the 110s?
Thanks, Adam

dmccarty · Aug 1, 2002

acbellnj,

How do you define "heavy" work? /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

I'm not sure if you read some of my posts in the 4n1 threads
since I was a bit late in responding but I just moved 176 tons
of ABC last week and I'll move another 32-64 tons this Friday.

I have something like a dozen large burnpiles around my
land some of which are as large as a small house. I have dug
up hundreds of stumps, most in the 4-6 inch range but dozens
in the 36+ inch size. Put them all in the burn piles. I have
cleared land for two driveways, two septic fields and two
house sites. Cleaned up, with much more to do, 3-4 acre
area that is all but clear cut as well as the decking area.

I use the MX6 about 10% of my tractor time. Maybe 6-8
times a year. Most of my tractor time is cleaning up, clearing,
or building/fixing driveways/roads.

I have a 4700, JD48, 460 FEL with 4n1, box blade and a MX6.

So far, knock on wood, I have not busted anything major.
/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif I broke a bolt on the backhoe and bent the tail wheel
on the MX6. When I play bulldozer I work in A range 1st or
2nd gear. I think that keeps me from busting anything up.

Later,
Dan McCarty

acbellnj · Aug 1, 2002

Thanks for the post Dan,

I sounds like the 4700 has held up very well for as much as you have listed, and excuse my ignorance as I'm a newbie to the tractor world, but what does "ABC" stand for and what would tons translate into in cubic yards of material moved?

As far as "heavy work", our area is known for dense clay soil with fairly large field stone in the upper depths and red shale down deeper. I have also read a number of posts about people digging and hitting rocks or when digging through large root systems that have caused such a force against the tractor as to snap, shear, or deform the hoe and subframe, and those who when back blading have ripped the bucket of the loader. Are these isolated cases as it sounds like you haven't experienced this or is what kind of ground you are working in make that big a difference? What is the soil composition like in NC?

dmccarty · Aug 1, 2002

acbellnj,

My soil is either clay. Or it is clay sprinkled with rocks. Or it
is clay saturated with rocks. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif Spends on where I am
working. I can be in clay, move 100 feet and be in the clay
saturated with rocks. The rocks are from small to huge
boulders six or so feet out of the ground.

Most of the stuff I have hit with the tractor have been the
small to maybe beach ball size. The worse thing a rock has
done is when I hit one with the box blade and the rock
wedged between the implement and my tires. The box blade
moved up violently and somehow managed to loosen the
nuts to the hoses on my hydraulic top link. I lost a couple
quarts of oil before I noticed and tightened things up. I'm
sure the nuts where loose before hand...

ABC is a mixture of rocks, maybe up to 2 inches in size with
lots of fines. The fines lock the stones into place and make
one heck of a driveway/road. If you watch road construction
and they are laying down gravel is most likely ABC or
something similar. There is another type called Crush and Run
which is close to ABC but I think it is slightly different. I have
a chart somewhere that talks about all of this stuff way past
my level of comprehension. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

After I roughly laid out the ABC I have had the dump trucks
running on the drive way. They BARELY make a track in this
stuff. Pretty amazing. I have gotten lucky in that its
rained in between my work days so that has help settle the
fines into the rock. I am also puting the ABC on top of
geotextile fabric which is helping as well.

As soon as my photo developer gets his PC fixed I'll post some
pictures of all of this in the Projects area.

As far as breaking the equipment. I wonder if people aren't
moving to fast? That is the only thing that I can think would
cause problems at least with my equipment. If I run into
something my tractor just stops but I'm moving very slowing.

The way the JD 48 backhoe fits onto the tractor is very
strong and secure. I don't think it is possible to break the
tractor with the hoe. I have use the hoe to lift the back
of the tractor, move over some distance, set back down,
and start digging. It did not seem to stress the equipment.
And it should not either. The JD equipment should be designed
so that one implement does not break the tractor. So far
that seems to be true. I have about 350 hours in 21 months.

Hope this helps,
Dan

dmccarty · Aug 1, 2002

acbellnj,

I ran off to lunch and remembered that you asked for the
conversion to yards from tons. Somewhere I had in my
head that ABC was 3,000 pounds per yard. But it depends
on how wet it is as well. My father in law just retired from
the DOT as an inspector and said ABC can be 3,000-4,000
pounds per ton. DOT specs 3,000 pounds per ton and that
is what most quarry's in NC will provide. The amount of
coverage I'm getting seems to match my calcuations on how
much ABC I would need...

Later,
Dan

RobS · Aug 1, 2002

ABC can be 3,000-4,000
pounds per ton

Hmm, this should be interesting....

DOT specs 3,000 pounds per ton 

... at least it's consistent...

I ran off to lunch 

... now I understand. I think you must have had my kind of lunch Dan /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif So which weighs more, a pound of ABC or a pound of feathers?

Sorry, couldn't resist /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

dmccarty · Aug 1, 2002

Hmmm,

I have a couple of smart a... answers. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Well, my father in law did work for the state so the numbers
might be right! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Or how about I put, "DOT specs 3,000 pounds per ton."
as a test to see if people was a pay'n attention....

Or how about a OOOPPPPSSSSSS! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

I'll let the TBN Denizens Decide..... /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Later,
Dan McCarty