John Deere 110

[JATO_RaT]

Tags, (aka Spiderman), I have the older 1992 style Harley with horizontal bars. As incredible as I think it is, I could see where the points would do a great job at opening up the soil and clearing it of debris. For a very rocky situation, especally with unmovable rock, the bars work great as they ride over it. Give me a hint about the price and size of what you have. Mine is actually my brother in laws, I just keep it for him. I originally tried the 6' Harley but his L 4850 would simply over power the rake. The clutch would slip and unless you had your eye glued to it, you would smoke it. The 8' rarely slips. The big gauge wheels work great in my soft ground that typically gets ripped by my boxblade and then scarified with the Halley and finally leveled and cleaned by the rollers.
Stopped by my local Kubota/JD dealer. He has both JD 110's on the lot but one is sold and the other is still up for sale. The price is very comparable to the L48. There is very little dealing to be had because supplies of everything from Deeres to Kubotas is tight. I would like to consider "down grading" in size from my L48 before it gets to many hours. I realize that now that most of my large grading is done, I really need a removable loader for all the mowing I do here at my place, about 9+ acres of it. What are your thoughts for a replacement? I looked at JD's 4610 and 4710 as well as Kubotas L4610. The one thing I really like about Kubotas is the loader. It is so much beefier, weighs about 400lbs more. On the other hand, I have not a tremendous amount of loader work left. I like the 4610 JD over the slightly more powerful 4710 because it is not only a smaller engine, but my understanding, a better engine. Its the same one as the JD 110. Rat...

 

[JoeReal]

Yada yada yada. What do people think these 110's are suppose to do? Move a mountain? I don't think so. It's a compact tractor. Built with limitations like all equipment. I got a chance to grade a road with my 4n1. What a nice job it did. It's going to do everything I want it to do. For big jobs. I'm not stupid. I hire it out. The salesman delivered my belly pan . I installed it in 2.5 hours. And I'm slow at everything. I'm still waiting for the outrigger guards and rear work lights. I haven't taken the hoe off yet. I got 8.5 hours on it now wow. I'm gonna wear her out in no time! I actually pulled some major stumps out and had a rock fall on the outrigger cylinder. Ouch. Wished I would have had those guards. I have a nice nick on the cylinder now. Happy tractoring. By the way I sold my International hoe. She was the longest relationship I ever had.

 

[Tags]

Rat,or should I say Ahhrnold,I think my rake is a 95' or 96' and there was absolutely nuttin' left of the bars,they were literally starting to fall off,as far as going over rock,the dimples do but just make more of a racket during the process,I've run over a few and it hasn't hurt a thing.As far as pricing I think I paid about mid sixes for the rake,the new roller and bearings cost $1800 with shipping and the end plates cost $350.I got about seven years out of the bar roller so it didn't owe me a thing and I feel the money I spent rehabing the rake was well worth it.Just curious though,you brought up a good point,with the hydro, if the clutch on the rake slips,there is no clutch to stop the pto,am I to assume that I should keep my hand over the pto button constantly in case something gets jammed up in the rollers?Have you encountered this problem?I think I have only seen the clutch slip once or twice on my rake and never thought it to be an issue but I would hate to wreck it.

As far as Kubota or Deere,orange vs. green(not yellow!)I am very partial to Kubota and always have been,the greenies just don't LOOK like they have the beef that the Kubies do,but I have not really had any time or experience on the green Deeres .It really seems that the guys on the board love em',but in the end you are the guy that has to be happy.I also think the L4610 has pretty good lift capacity compared to the Deere.The reason I went with the 110 was really because the green people at Deere didn't have much to do with it,it was mainly the construction division that designed it which is easy to see when lookin' at it,about the only things that are the same on the 110 and the 4600 is the motor and the floor mat.Anyway I hope my inane babble was helpful.Tags

 

[JATO_RaT]

So Tags, your rake had the bars and you replaced them with the spiked roller? How do the two compare? The endplate idea was mine, they stole it. That would help out tremendously. So how are you liking the hydrostatic. It is so slick with the rake. As I see rocks slipping the other way it is so easy just to let up on the pedal, back off on the speed and let it catch up. Rat...

P.S. did JoeReal Yada, yada, yada me?

 

[Tags]

Joe,
Hope you are enjoying your 110 as much as I am.Now that you've had it for a bit,was it worth the wait?I just got my 4n1 bucket today,so I slapped it on and put her to work,the controlls to operate it on the loader lever are real slick,much better than having to manipulate two levers at the same time.Just curious if your hydraulic lines for the 4n1 hang down low to the ground when the bucket is in the "dig" position,I had to loop a bungee cord around the loader cross member and the lines to keep them from touching the ground,other wise the thing works great,good clamping pressure and it responds quick too.Hope all is well,happy diggin'.

 

[Tags]

Ahhhh,ok Rat,your idea,the endplates,they stole it,big conspiracy,next you'll be telling me your name is Zoltar,and you're from Mars /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif.Seriously though,if you think the bars do a good job,the teeth do twice the job cause they have the ability to "till" the soil better,and it does a better job of chewing up sod and pulling out rocks that the bars would normally bounce over.As far as the endplates Zoltar,they really don't advise using them with the bars,they say rocks can get jammed between the bar and top roller,where as the teeth will let the rock pass between the teeth and not jam,but using the plates just gives you the ability to hold more rocks/material on the rake which is just all around better.Now that I've had it for 40 hours or so I don't think I'd want a machine without a hydro tranny,the ability to speed up and slow down for the conditions is great,no stopping to switch gears,I have yet to find where a gear model would be better,and I would advise anyone buying a compact to go hydro.

P.S. Not sure if he yada,yada,yadaed you but if he did,he better watch his back/w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

 

[JoeReal]

Man some people are so sensitive. I wasn't yada-ing anyone in particular. Just the tractor universe in general. Rats your not one of those sensitive New Age types are yada? Oops I mean you. Tags I haven't used my tractor much so I can't be sure about those hoses dragging. Although I think I would have noticed if they had. I've got about 100+ feet of driveway and a gravel pad to put in at home so I'll be able to tell better when I use it. I'll let you know. I was at the dealers today picking some lawnmower stuff and my rear work lights had just come in. I'm still waiting for those outrigger guards. I'd liked to have them seeing what happened the last time I used the hoe. I asked the salesman to check into a front snowplower. I know they install them on skidsteers. Just wondering about the hydraulic capability.

 

[Tags]

Joe,
I think the 110 in a snowplowing capacity would be great,especially if someone comes out with a nice little cab unit for it.As far as hydraulic capability,if it runs the 4n1 it will have no problem pushing snowplow cylenders in and out.I think the machine has a 12gallon per minute flow to the front couplers,and I have been told it has the ability to run a front mounted sweeper.Glad it is woking well for ya,now get to gradin'!!

 

[JATO_RaT]

Tags, I checked into the Glenmac/Harley site for info on the Pro 8 or Pro 6 rake. I need some parts for my Pro 8 with the bars. The solid carbide pegs really look like they are the next generation in landscape rakes. I could see where they could replace for me the need for a tiller where all I really want to do is clean up the soil and level things out without adding all the air that tilling does. I generally rip the soil with my box scraper anyway. I'm really interested. Oddly, the Glenmac sight mentions that the Pro8 needs about 35+ Hp to work. I have found the rollers take very little PTO power. It is really a incredible product, I think my Pro 8 is marvelous and its the old style. Can't imagine it gettting much better but it sure looks like the carbide pegs are really the way to go. Thanks for the info, yadayada, Rat...

 

[JoeReal]

Tags I check the hoses on my 4n1. Looks good to me. I dont see where they would ever drag. It would be better if they were not there at all but then I wouln't have a 4n1 bucket.
Maybe since you got yours after the tractor came in they probably allowed more hose in case it went on a different machine like a skid steer. Just a thought.