Jobs Market isChanging

[Raul-02]

Ohh the dreams of youth, how they beget the regrets of maturity.

A rather large number of those people who during the covid pandemic thought they could move to some beautiful remote location and work from home and made the howling mistake of buying (or worse Building) a home - - well they are facing a terror.

Companies are realizing that if those jobs can be fulfilled by a remote employee then they can be filled even better by an outsourced overseas contractor in India at an enormously reduced cost.

Ohhhh, Baby, hard times are coming.

 

[RoyJackson]

Their big mistake was thinking remote work would be permanent. It's not...
I hate to see the outsourcing overseas...and, although I'm pretty much a libertarian, I think punitive taxes on outsourcing is necessary for our economy

 

[scootr]

Interesting discussion. I think you are both right. The problem I see is we have raised a generation that does not believe in hard work. When I was a youth I believed the harder I worked the more I earned. Not so with todays' workfarse. It started with participation awards. We all knew that was BS but young parents insisted their child not suffer the anguish of defeat. There would be no winners or losers, just participants. From there they went on to $100k college degrees in nothing useful. They resided in their parents home and quit any job that was not fun and easy.
Basically we have a entitled society. People today feel they are entitled to the things we worked our buts off for, like a nice home, a nice car, a good job, health car, retirement funds, vacations and more. This will surly bankrupt the nation unless the next generation wakes up and gets to work.

 

[Ken45101]

Their big mistake was thinking remote work would be permanent. It's not...
I hate to see the outsourcing overseas...and, although I'm pretty much a libertarian, I think punitive taxes on outsourcing is necessary for our economy

Punitive taxes on outsourcing is really the same thing as tariffs which are generally regarded as a bad solution.

People want cheap goods and don't want to pay for U.S. content, physical or mental. If people really believed in "buy American", Walmart would be hurting for customers. Last I checked, they are not.

Of course, we have the maniacs in Washington who are anxious to kill off what competitive advantages we do have, such as energy production.

 

[5030]

All I know is, I've cancelled a few credit cards because the person at the other end of the line I could not understand. Ditched a Cabelas card and a Bank One Master Card. I use US Bank MC now as their call center is manned by Americans.

Even the Harbor Freight call center is staffed with Americans. Amazing.

 

[ddbackhoe]

what about the fed employees that are working from home but not really working? Apparently tax returns cant be hand processed from home for security reasons. Classified work cannot be processed from home for security reasons, etc etc. From the ones Ive chatted with, after 2 years of working at home, there is no plan to put them back in the office.
However, if they arent missed, why do we need them?

 

[5030]

Ohh the dreams of youth, how they beget the regrets of maturity.

A rather large number of those people who during the covid pandemic thought they could move to some beautiful remote location and work from home and made the howling mistake of buying (or worse Building) a home - - well they are facing a terror.

Companies are realizing that if those jobs can be fulfilled by a remote employee then they can be filled even better by an outsourced overseas contractor in India at an enormously reduced cost.

Ohhhh, Baby, hard times are coming.

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Hard time are here already and teleworking is but a small part of it. With a new car costing 50 grand an a home in the 250 range for a shack, the only way to purchase them is finance and with homes, it's usually an ARM so as the interest rate goes up, so does the payment. No way can people today afford that bust. It's gonna go bust no matter which way you turn it.

 

[5030]

what about the fed employees that are working from home but not really working? Apparently tax returns cant be hand processed from home for security reasons. Classified work cannot be processed from home for security reasons, etc etc. From the ones Ive chatted with, after 2 years of working at home, there is no plan to put them back in the office.
However, if they arent missed, why do we need them?

My wife 'teleworked' for years and it was never a problem but she was always disciplined about her work time. She would still go in about once a week anyway. She retired a GS13 step 10 and I thank the lord she had the job she had. She carried her health and welfare into retirement and if it wasn't for that insurance, we'd be bankrupt today. My hospital bill for my cancer was just over a million bucks and it's still ongoing.

 

[Herness]

Pandemic and war will definitely change the world and i am not sure that those changes will be for better.
All we are trying to do now (i am talking about small business owners at the moment) - save as much as possible , considering the current prices of utility bills and materials. For now we changed our old communication methods inside the company to twilio slack and going to the same for the customer service in the nearest future.

 

[Oaktree]

All I know is, I've cancelled a few credit cards because the person at the other end of the line I could not understand. Ditched a Cabelas card and a Bank One Master Card. I use US Bank MC now as their call center is manned by Americans.

Even the Harbor Freight call center is staffed with Americans. Amazing.

Not that having U.S. based call centers is always an improvement...I've gotten CS reps who either had some strong regional accent, or their first language was Ebonics or something...you knew they were Americans, but still couldn't make out half of what they said. Some of the reps in India speak better English than some Americans.

what about the fed employees that are working from home but not really working? Apparently tax returns cant be hand processed from home for security reasons. Classified work cannot be processed from home for security reasons, etc etc. From the ones Ive chatted with, after 2 years of working at home, there is no plan to put them back in the office.
However, if they arent missed, why do we need them?

Obviously "non essential" employees.
Yeah, I'm not sure I'd want to be classified as non essential.