JIC vs. SAE substitution

[picker77]

Having trouble locating a particular fitting I need a couple of... namely, straight male to female SAE -6 (ORB) swivel adapters. Lots of SAE swivel elbows, swivel 45's, and non-swivel SAE straights around, however a simple straight M-F swivel has proven hard to find. Why, I don't know. I've tried Surplus Center and Discount Hyd Hose with no luck so far.

Since JIC and SAE are both 9/16-18 thread with no taper, can I substitute a JIC Male to Female swivel adapter if I can find a couple of those?

I believe JIC and SAE with the same dash number will mate up thread wise, but I am concerned about getting a good seal. However, I do have plenty of teflon paste and tape on hand. :laughing:

 

[wdchyd]

Sounds like an odd duck to me....you don't usually see these.....(#6-ORB Female)....if no luck, buy individual fittings and have someone TIG weld them up.....

 

[Gary Sweat]

Baileynet.com may have what you are looking for. They have the SAE-6 male to swivel female straight in both NPT and JIC swivels.

 

[picker77]

By Golly, Gary... I think you nailed it. I believe I can make that Male ORB to Female JIC work, if I can just get a leak proof fit between the male ORB and the female JIC side of that swivel. Teflon tape to the rescue! It's certainly worth a try, ordering some right now. Don't know why I didn't check Bailey, but I checked many other places. Thanks!!

 

[Buba81]

As long as your male jic has a shoulder put a oring on it and it will seal just the same as your male sae. as far as the female sae most are cut so that male jic will seat and as long as you can find a female jic that is solid then a male sae will seal. I work in a hydraulic hose shop and I do this all the time

 

[oldnslo]

Since I was unclear which fitting you are trying to join I have a dumb question.

Are you trying to seal and ORB male end into a JIC 37 degree female? If the answer is yes this will not work.

If you want to interchange JIC male with SAE ORB male then just add an O-ring to the JIC fitting and they will interchange. O-ring size is a 2-906

Two Notes of caution:
1) Make sure the hex size is at least 11/16 on the JIC fitting or the O-ring will extrude.
2) Make sure the SAE ORB port is deep enough to accept the flared nose of the JIC fitting.

Roy

 

[wdchyd]

Having trouble locating a particular fitting I need a couple of... namely, straight male to female SAE -6 (ORB) swivel adapters. L

Sorry, Did I understand this wrong or did you describe it wrong....?...:ashamed:

 

[picker77]

I'm probably confusing everybody, with me first in line, LOL.

Since a picture even crudely drawn is worth 1000 words:

1. All DPOCV ports are 3/8 BSPP.
2. Wanted BSPP to SAE 6 swivel elbows, no such animal. The only BSPP to SAE elbows I could get are "rigid adjustable" (has an "adjustable" nut on the SAE side which is not shown on my crude drawing).
3. Because the elbows are rigid, in order to assemble this obviously the elbows must be taped and screwed into the DPOCV until the length between the cylinder side of the elbows exactly matches the distance between the SAE 6 ports on the cylinder, and then install a swivel connector to make the hookup to the cylinder ports. So I have been looking for a SAE 6 female to SAE 6 male swivel adapter. None found.
4. Plan B is to try instead a 3/8 JIC female to SAE 6 (orb) male swivel adapter.

Longer cylinders with more working room between ports make this easy by using tubing and flare fittings. When there's no room for that, it has be all fittings. Either that or have a big mess of plumbing hanging off the cylinder, which I don't want to do.

Does this help?

 

[wdchyd]

Picker77,

I see, thats's tight......is there room to possibly turn the DOPCV 90 degrees and use 90's on the cyl ports and valve block, then use tubing bent at 90 degrees to make up the diff....?

or mount valve block to side and use small 1/4" ID hoses between block and ports...?

 

[leonz]

The threads are different for british standard pipe fittings and they will leak.

the BSP threading allows you to move the fittings to the proper desired position.

You should never instal an oring on any JIC fitting unless it is an o ring mating flange fitting.


With what you have described it will be less troublesome if you find a reputable hydraulic repair shop

to fix this for you and be done with it.