Jd vs kubota

[Bryan1965]

Received a quote for a kubota l2501 yesterday, looked at the new JD 3032e and it is so much lighter, and only has 2 position HST, vs the 3 on the kubota.

Going to another kubota dealer tomorrow them to my JD Ag pro right down the street to get a quote. After test driving a Few of the old JD 4 series. (4100, 4310) the 3 series seems so much less. But also is all I can afford. Not even sure I can afford the 3032 may need to go to the 3025, which I am not real thrilled about with an almost 700 lb lighter tractor.

Just looking for suggestions, hoping to make decision soon, not much worth on the used market, although the one dealer may have a 2016 L3301 coming I may look at.

 

[kthompson]

No idea on your needs which is fist thing to consider. Know what you will be doing and begin with implements to do that job and then what size tractor you need for that.

Not sure the 3000 model my brother in law has but has about a 40 or so hp engine if not mistaken. He and the tractor or over 1,000 miles from me but I ran it with fel and box blade last year for a few hours. He lives in think called the "Hill" area of Texas and it is rocky rolling land without a doubt. It had the two speed hst and for me use to a much larger JD true farm tractor with FEL was impressed by the power it had. (I have a 27 hp Kubota with HST, no loader so am very use the hst). The only work I did was with those two attachments and it worked very well. Something such as mower might be an issue but to me it was impressive.

Know JD is doing zero percentage right now. Not sure on web site but talked with Dealer Friday. No idea about Kubota. But don't be scare of used either.

 

[Slowpoke Slim]

Doesn't the 3 series JD in the "-R" (instead of the "-E") come with 3rd range HST? And I did think the JD's were light weight for their overall size.

 

[s219]

The 2501 is hard to beat in terms of features. And it has a detuned 34HP engine, so it's more brawny than the rated "25HP" would have you believe.

If cost is an issue, look at some of the 2nd tier brands. Several of them are as good or better than Deere and Kubota but substantially lower cost.

 

[paulfun9]

If cost is an issue, look at some of the 2nd tier brands. Several of them are as good or better than Deere and Kubota but substantially lower cost.

Have to agree!
Price wasn’t even a concern and I still decided on a different brand. Having paid substantially less was just Iceing on the cake!

 

[Bryan1965]

The problem with 2nd tier is they have no dealer near where I will have the tractor. About the only one close is rural king and LS brands.at which there is no LS dealer near my home for me to even go an investigate,

25 HP should be enough for my FEL, and told it is ok for a 5’ bush hog I will get, what worries me is that I have some hills I need to maneuver to get to most of my property so will need the heavier tractor. And I have a deep clay land, and am thinking of plowing it for a garden, and I have heard some say the pot hp is not enough in the smaller 25 hp machines,

 

[Bryan1965]

The 2501 is hard to beat in terms of features. And it has a detuned 34HP engine, so it's more brawny than the rated "25HP" would have you believe.

If cost is an issue, look at some of the 2nd tier brands. Several of them are as good or better than Deere and Kubota but substantially lower cost.

My quote was for the hst, a bush hog and filled tires. And I did like all that came with it. I am going to a different dealer tomorrow.gonna also have him quote me a 3301 and see what the actuall difference is, and may have them remove bush hog and just get a used one. (But even them you have to worry I hear)

 

[paulfun9]

The problem with 2nd tier is they have no dealer near where I will have the tractor. About the only one close is rural king and LS brands.at which there is no LS dealer near my home for me to even go an investigate,

25 HP should be enough for my FEL, and told it is ok for a 5’ bush hog I will get, what worries me is that I have some hills I need to maneuver to get to most of my property so will need the heavier tractor. And I have a deep clay land, and am thinking of plowing it for a garden, and I have heard some say the pot hp is not enough in the smaller 25 hp machines,

I honestly don’t feel the need to have the dealer close other than wanting to help support my local economy. I pass within 5 miles of the dealer at least once a week and still find it better to have filters and such sent directly to my home anyway.

Out of curiosity what do you consider close?

A little drive might be worth it as the last I looked you could get a lot of bang for the buck with LS.

 

[DKCDKC]

Several years ago, when I was shopping for a CUT, I looked closely at JD and Kubota - the only two local dealers. Both machines seemed pretty good, each with strengths and weaknesses. I chose JD (3038e) primarily because of comfort and dealer quality. I did not like the controls on the Kubota as much for long term use as for the JD. I really think - as others have advised - that you need to decide on models for each brand based on your need and budget - then go and sit on and operate them. Tractors have characteristics that make them feel right or not. Go with your feelings, both are good brands. Of course, you can also look for a used, larger tractor - but you won't be as sure of what you get.

The JD is lighter but, with filled tires and implements, I've not experienced any trouble with that. The biggest issue to me with all CUTs is the narrow wheelbase. Compared to the old utility tractors I was used to, they are tremendously more tippy going across slopes. I don't like that but have found no real CUT that is significantly better - unless you ad wheel extenders, which I am doing.

 

[TBone]

Several years ago, when I was shopping for a CUT, I looked closely at JD and Kubota - the only two local dealers. Both machines seemed pretty good, each with strengths and weaknesses. I chose JD (3038e) primarily because of comfort and dealer quality. I did not like the controls on the Kubota as much for long term use as for the JD. I really think - as others have advised - that you need to decide on models for each brand based on your need and budget - then go and sit on and operate them. Tractors have characteristics that make them feel right or not. Go with your feelings, both are good brands. Of course, you can also look for a used, larger tractor - but you won't be as sure of what you get.

The JD is lighter but, with filled tires and implements, I've not experienced any trouble with that. The biggest issue to me with all CUTs is the narrow wheelbase. Compared to the old utility tractors I was used to, they are tremendously more tippy going across slopes. I don't like that but have found no real CUT that is significantly better - unless you ad wheel extenders, which I am doing.

I agree with DK. Both JD and Kubota make good tractors. I've had both and both of them were bulletproof. Try at least one of each and see how they feel to you. While you're there, get a feel for the dealership and their service departments. There's a good chance you will need them at some point. I looked at the same models you are considering since I am near John Deere and Kubota dealers. I decided on the L2501 because it felt more comfortable to my old body and I had a little better feeling about the Kubota dealership. I initially had some reservations about the single treadle pedal but after a few hours of use it feels natural as can be. Having the brakes on the same side as the hst pedal is the dumbest thing I ever saw but so far I have had no need for the split brakes. The little tractor turns on a dime. If I could change anything about it I would like a little more pto horsepower. It is pretty slow in heavy stuff with a 5' bush hog. The loader is a champ and I couldn't do without it. Good luck with your search. I'm sure you'll find one to suit you.

 

[paulfun9]

Just eyeballing really quickly the RK online I think that would be the way I would lean. Someone correct me if I am wrong here but it seems the RK37 can be had for the same money as the econo JD or the low hp kubota.

 

[MF2604h]

I would go to every brand within an hour or two of you. Drive each one and see which one fits you best. Try LS, Massey, Kioti, RK etc. you would be surprised in the prices of different brands.

Comfort and dealer can make a big difference. My dad has a Montana, but it痴 too cramped for me. I needed a bigger operator platform.

Good luck

 

[Bryan1965]

Online and RK 37 starts at 26,000 with just the FEL the mahindra ck35 about the same. my quote for the kubota was 22000 with bush hog and liquid filled tires. Plus zero percent

My wife did not want to go over 20. It is hard to get her to go for this. It is only a weekend summer home, but we want to do so much with it and have other stuff to do plus we still have a house payment where we live.

That’s why it is so hard

Been looking for a few month, need it by the time spring rolls, we had to put in a septic and have a lot of yard clearing to do to plant grass. So my time is getting limited.

Again, I would not even think of 24is HP in any of the other brands. Only reason I even consider the kubota right now is because of the weight and zero percent.

 

[Bryan1965]

By the way, thanks for all the ideas, I do really appreciate it, hope to get be able to contribute soon and not just ask questions!

 

[Bryan1965]

Doesn't the 3 series JD in the "-R" (instead of the "-E") come with 3rd range HST? And I did think the JD's were light weight for their overall size.

I will have to check, thanks for the info, I would not have known to check this

 

[Bryan1965]

The 2501 is hard to beat in terms of features. And it has a detuned 34HP engine, so it's more brawny than the rated "25HP" would have you believe.

If cost is an issue, look at some of the 2nd tier brands. Several of them are as good or better than Deere and Kubota but substantially lower cost.

Has any one ever tried to retune it to 34? I have done this with boat outboards that are detracted.

 

[paulfun9]

Online and RK 37 starts at 26,000 with just the FEL the mahindra ck35 about the same. my quote for the kubota was 22000 with bush hog and liquid filled tires. Plus zero percent

My wife did not want to go over 20. It is hard to get her to go for this. It is only a weekend summer home, but we want to do so much with it and have other stuff to do plus we still have a house payment where we live.

That’s why it is so hard

Been looking for a few month, need it by the time spring rolls, we had to put in a septic and have a lot of yard clearing to do to plant grass. So my time is getting limited.

Again, I would not even think of 24is HP in any of the other brands. Only reason I even consider the kubota right now is because of the weight and zero percent.

I am certain that the RK37H that I looked at online today was 21,999 with loader included. Now this could be my computer sending me to an old page as I did notice I got bounced around a bit when I got into the loader specs. Just a bit curious now if the web site needs updated.

Just went back and verified it was listed at 21,999 for the RK37H
The RK37HC with quick attach loader was listed at 26,499 this is a cab tractor.

I also see a tab to apply for zero percent financing for 84 months on the website.

 

[dodge man]

The E model in JD is their basic model and the R model is the more deluxe. Kubota and JD are both great, very well established. They are also the only dealers near me. I own a JD now and owned a Kubota in the past. One thing to keep in mind JD recommends a lot of ballast. For my JD 2025r, smaller than you are looking at, they recommend filled tires AND about 800 pounds of rear ballast when using the FEL. This adds about a 1000 pounds to my tractor.

 

[Bryan1965]

I am certain that the RK37H that I looked at online today was 21,999 with loader included. Now this could be my computer sending me to an old page as I did notice I got bounced around a bit when I got into the loader specs. Just a bit curious now if the web site needs updated.

Just went back and verified it was listed at 21,999 for the RK37H
The RK37HC with quick attach loader was listed at 26,499 this is a cab tractor.

I also see a tab to apply for zero percent financing for 84 months on the website.

Your right my bad, it had been awhile. I may stop there tomorrow too, I am driving right past 1

 

[paulfun9]

Price just confirmed at rural king by a friend who was at one of the PA stores today.
The open station 37 is priced at 21,999 as of today.
Was the price you were quoted for a cab tractor?

Just watched a recent video on the RK
That price includes loaded tires, rear remote, quick attach loader and bucket, 8 year warrantee.
Looking at the specs, the options and price even if it was a stretch I would be going this way if my 3 choices were JD, Kubota or RK.

If I wasn’t willing to stretch the money I would go smaller like the RK24 and deal with too small till the other things in life settled and then trade it in on what ever was the best deal at that time.