Ballast JD Rear Ballast Box

[AKKubota]

I have a 2520 w/ 200CX. I have the JD rear ballist box and plan on filling it with cement and putting in some pipe-tool holders (copied from another TBN post).

I don't have filled tires or wheel weights.

Question is: Should I get the JD extension or would the "short box" be enough?

Another issue is teh tight clearance on the front tires & the steering linkage. Is there a front wheel spacer and/or can I reverse the front wheels?

thx in advance

 

[kennyd]

The BB filled with Portland Cement should come out to about 800lbs or so without the extension. My FEL manual has weights listed with sand, regular cement and Portland...Do the new manuals not have this info any more?

 

[AKKubota]

The 200CX manual has a table and it shows 374# w/o ext and 515# with if loaded with concrete. This seems way under. I measured the box and it is 18x20x24inches giving me about 5 cu ft (right?)...which should be more than 374#.

I just bought 8 6o# bags and they look about right.....?

 

[Nuru]

I have a 2520 w/ 200CX. I have the JD rear ballist box and plan on filling it with cement and putting in some pipe-tool holders (copied from another TBN post).

I don't have filled tires or wheel weights.

Question is: Should I get the JD extension or would the "short box" be enough?

Another issue is teh tight clearance on the front tires & the steering linkage. Is there a front wheel spacer and/or can I reverse the front wheels?

thx in advance

The addition of that section seems to make the box over 1100 lbs when stuffed with concrete. Don't knwo if you would ever need that. Doesn't it depend on how much you are lifting in the loader?

So when are you gonna modify your username?

 

[shot_gun]

KennyD is right. Portland cement is the most dense cement therfore providing the most weight per cu ft. Wheel spacers are available. I think we have a set at work if your intrested. I think they are 1 or 1 1/2 inch spacers. We tried to put on tire chains on the front wheels and it didn't work. You shouldn't need the extension on your ballast box for a 200 CX loader just the main box.

 

[AKKubota]

Thanks for the advice on the box.

Shot_Gun What is the part number for the front spacers. I would get them from you, but shipping to AK from NJ is probably $100+!

 

[shot_gun]

You maybe right LOL. I'll check on it and let you know.

 

[shot_gun]

Wheel spacers are LVU12475. You need two. You need 8 of LVU13274 lug bolts for the extra spacers. The spacers are 25mm or 1 inch. Good luck.

 

[kennyd]

AK, I just copied this from an earlier post I made:

Here is what I know, per the Manual for my 410 loader-page 15-11:

CALCULATED BALLAST:
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UNIT / SAND / CONCRETE /PORLAND CEMENT
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BALLAST / 528lbs / 692lbs / 926lbs
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EMPTY
BOX / 88lbs / 88lbs / 88lbs
________________________________________________
BALLAST
W/EXT. / 176lbs / 104lbs / 308lbs
________________________________________________
EMPTY
EXT. / 8lbs / 8lbs / 8lbs
________________________________________________
TOTAL
WEIGHT / 800lbs / 1018lbs / 1330lbs
________________________________________________


So, Without the BB extension, the box weighs 616lbs w/sand, 780lbs w/ concrete, and 1014lbs w/Portland cement.

I used regular cement from the local rental place that sells Redi-Mix U-Cart concrete. I just put the BB on my trailer and drove there and they filled it! Troweled it when I got home! Don't forget to seal the inside seams first with duct tape or silicone or the water will run out and make a mess! (been there, got the T-shirt!)

 

[ragkar]

I talked to my JD dealer abut cement ballast and he said in his experience, practically nobody uses cement. They just pile some rocks in there.

 

[kennyd]

I talked to my JD dealer abut cement ballast and he said in his experience, practically nobody uses cement. They just pile some rocks in there.

There is quite a few "nobody's" here then

 

[AKKubota]

Shot Gun what is the full JD retail on the front spacers and bolts?

 

[shot_gun]

$72 per spacer and $3.70 per bolt. Your dealer may charge you shipping if you MD those. You might want to try stock order. All CCE dealers have a daily stock order. So far it's worked out ok for us. It lowers the price to the consumer and you still get your parts in four business days for the day of order.

 

[AKKubota]

FYI - It took exactly 11 x 60# bags of cement.

 

[Nuru]

I talked to my JD dealer abut cement ballast and he said in his experience, practically nobody uses cement. They just pile some rocks in there.

I am gonna use sand bags.

 

[AKfish]

That should be enough weight to keep your 2520 sufficiently anchored to the flat part of the world!

You're gonna wish for a quick-hitch, now....

Attaching and unattaching that 1,200lbs will be an experience that you won't like duplicating more than necessary!

Best of luck with your new "green" machine!

AKfish

 

[Woody_NH]

When not in use, my ballast box sits on a dolly in the garage. To hook it up, I roll it close, attach the top link first and then adjust the length of the top link to inch the box in position for each lower link. Take about 2 minutes and no real effort.

 

[Birdmayon]

I just filled my ballast box this weekend as well. I only fit 4.5 bags of portland in there, so I guess that's about 4.5 cubic feet, which makes sense. Not sure what the density of cured portland is, I'm guessing anywhere between 130 and 150 lb per cubic foot. So, I'm guessing, including the box itself, I'm at about 700 lb. I have no idea how you can get more weight than that in this thing using cement or concrete.

 

[jgrreed]

Are any of you lifting round bales on a spear with a 4x20 with a 400x?? I've got a ballast box filled with fine gravel (without the extension for right now) and fluid in my back tires. I don't want to make the BB permanently weigh 1000lbs with cement because I trailer it a fair bit. I'm going to use a spear on my 4720.

What are the heaviest bales any of you have gotten away with??? Can you get them on/off of the second row of a deck over gooseneck??

Thanks!!

-Jer.

 

[unreconstructed]

I used sacrete--quickrete or whatever you want to call it in mine for my 2320. Don't have the tires filled. Seems to give me satisfactory traction when using the loader. Don't think the extension would be necessary, but then again have not tried one.