Comparison JD 5065E VS JD 5065M...$10,000 QUESTION

[Edward. S]

Hi deere5105 I think the 65M/E can probably handle a MX7 i've seen a few people use a 4(5/7)20 with a mx 7 bush hogging it depends if your property has inclines and hills if you have alot of hills and inclines you should get the mx 6

 

[jenkinsph]

deere 5105,
I use the 4520 and the 110 tlb to pull the landplane and boxblade both work well for this. Bear in mind the Frontier BB1284 boxblade is a 7' 1250 lbs with hydraulic rippers and can carry almost 1 1/4 yards, so this is the highest draft load. I use the landplane to improve new lawn sites more than roadwork and it does a great job smoothing out yards for planting. That is why I built mine with straight blades instead of angled blades.

The MX6 is no problem for the 4520 in most conditions but when using with the 110 it can drop rpms if you try to go too fast in heavy brush. Both machines handle the weight with no problems. Lots of people use 4520 and 4720's with MX7 here but I would think you need a full 12 front weights for that. I prefer the MX6 for my work as it is more nimble to use in unknown fields, don't really use it alot as I have only cut about 200 acres total so far.

When comparing a 60hp 4520 to a similar hp 5xxx tractor there are trade offs for each, the 4520 does not have as much draft capability but is a little faster and more nimble machine. While the 5xxx are a good size for general purpose work having the 4xxx machines I would rather consider the 6xxx machines which are large enough to make a difference for big jobs. Right now I can't justify it for the few times I need a larger tractor.

 

[deere5105]

Thanks for the info. I always assumed the compact tractors didn't have a place in ag work, but sounds like they are very capable machines. I looked up a 4520 early today and was suprised to find out it isn't much different in weight than my 5105. I think for the time being, if they don't accept the offer I made on the 5420, I will stick with the 5105. Got to redirect focus on a new trailer. The 16' 7K with sides we have just isn't cutting it for moving the tractors with an implement. Thanks for the input.

 

[deere5105]

I have an update for those of you that advised on this topic. After much thought and consideration I found myself still wanting to upgrade. After traveling about 900 miles and 15 hours and one blow out and one flat on trailer, I am now the proud owner of a 2008 John Deere 5303 4WD with 522 FEL. Unit has 264 hours. Was able to work out a trade with my 5105. This tractor was used very little to run a 6' cutter and a little square baling. Previous owner traded for a cab tractor for the hay operation. Was looking at the 5065E, but come across 5303 which appears to be identical. Tractor is in like new condition. Can't wait to try it out. I realize there are some options on the M Series that are handy, but I just could not justify the extra cost. Thanks for all of the advice.

 

[jenkinsph]

Glad you found something that works for you. Post some pics of it.

 

[deere5105]

Will take a little time to know for sure how it will operate under various conditions. Got to do a little mowing with MX6 cutter last night before church and noticed right off that the engine seems to run smoother at higher RPM, tall thick grass bogs less and that even though 5303 is only 4" longer it seems much bigger. Not quite as "nimble" feeling as the 5105, but more "solid" feeling. Looks like everything is in easy to get to locations. Bought tractor through Trigreen Equipment in Athen, AL. About a 400 mile drive one way for me, but dealing with Curtis at that store was a pleasure.

Having a little trouble with pictures file size. Will have to work on that to see if can get them posted.

 

[deere5105]

Had to put pictures in different format. These were taken on the previous owner's property. Have not taken any at it's new home.

 

[MBDiagMan]

Beautiful machine! I'm not intimately familiar with that model, but it appears to have a gearbox like my 5045D. You could have posted that your tractor is brand new and no one would have been able to tell by looking at the pictures. You did good. Yours is very similar to mine and I like the added mass very much (over 6,000 pouns with loader) as compared to the lighter weight tractors of the same HP range.

Much of this is personal preference and also related to your driving experience. It sounds as if you are like me with plenty of previous experience dealing with a clutch pedal.

In finding and choosing a tractor recently, one of my top goals was to get a regular shift transmission with a clutch pedal. If you are competent with a clutch pedal, the sync reverser will serve you quite well for FEL work, you can slip it easily forward to reverse as the tractor is moving toward the position where you want to change directions without the tractor being at a full stop.

Many younger folks don't have the clutch skills or just don't want to bother with a clutch pedal. By choosing such a tractor if you are comfortable handling it, you will have a gearbox that will probably never need any attention. In the case of the fancier systems, if they ever DO give any trouble, it will be very expen$ive to repair. I can split a tractor myself and replace the clutch, but I'm not going to attempt an overhaul on one of these fancy transmissions.

So, with all the fancy doodads, you get to pay more money up front PLUS pay more money later on should they need repair.

I really like the basic simplicity of my 5045D and find the syncreverser very natural to handle. As an added bonus, I know that if anything does happen I can take care of it with minimal expen$e.

Enjoy.

My $0.02,

 

[deere5105]

Beautiful machine! I'm not intimately familiar with that model, but it appears to have a gearbox like my 5045D. You could have posted that your tractor is brand new and no one would have been able to tell by looking at the pictures. You did good. Yours is very similar to mine and I like the added mass very much (over 6,000 pouns with loader) as compared to the lighter weight tractors of the same HP range.

Much of this is personal preference and also related to your driving experience. It sounds as if you are like me with plenty of previous experience dealing with a clutch pedal.

In finding and choosing a tractor recently, one of my top goals was to get a regular shift transmission with a clutch pedal. If you are competent with a clutch pedal, the sync reverser will serve you quite well for FEL work, you can slip it easily forward to reverse as the tractor is moving toward the position where you want to change directions without the tractor being at a full stop.

Many younger folks don't have the clutch skills or just don't want to bother with a clutch pedal. By choosing such a tractor if you are comfortable handling it, you will have a gearbox that will probably never need any attention. In the case of the fancier systems, if they ever DO give any trouble, it will be very expen$ive to repair. I can split a tractor myself and replace the clutch, but I'm not going to attempt an overhaul on one of these fancy transmissions.

So, with all the fancy doodads, you get to pay more money up front PLUS pay more money later on should they need repair.

I really like the basic simplicity of my 5045D and find the syncreverser very natural to handle. As an added bonus, I know that if anything does happen I can take care of it with minimal expen$e.

Enjoy.

My $0.02,

Your evaluation is right on track. I grew up using a Ford 4000 and an old Ferguson 40 tricycle tractor. The SyncReverser was an unbelieveable upgrade from these tractors. I have no problems using the clutch and find myself in one gear moving in one direction most of the time. For the occasional loader work and change of direction this transmission suits my needs just fine. I talked with several shop employees in the dealerships and all of them stated if buying for themselves and keeping cost in mind that this would be the model range they would be looking at. Seem to have little to no repair issues on the newer ones.

 

[MBDiagMan]

Yes, I am coming off of a Ford 3000 that I have run for the last 24 years. I just wanted a simple transmission like on the old Ford. As a surprise bonus I discovered the sync reverser and have fallen in love with it. I can maneuver this machine back and forth efficiently and with ease.

I'm a clutch person all the way. Everything on my place has a clutch except my wifes car. I even have a Mercedes four door with a manual transmission.

Keep us posted on how your new machine works out for you.