JD 2305 vs. BX24

fishpick · Mar 10, 2007

Add to what Turbys_1700 said - the dealer you like too... dealer relationship is very important.

RichT · May 26, 2007

Good thread for prospective buyers. My BX22 is 5+yrs old. I probably got one of the first ones in California. Someone mentioned it earlier...ability to transit through walk through gates in stone walls was critical to me. At the time (2002) no one had anything else in a BX22 size with TLB capacity, so my decision was fairly easy. The 22 has been an outstanding little tractor. My neighbor has a commercial JD backhoe (410E) and frequently borrows the little 22 for 'up close and personal' work around his property.

I did visit a couple local JD dealers when I was looking, checked out their compact line (790 I think). The JD dealers in my area were commercial business focused, not rude, but not anxious to go the extra mile for a residential buyer. The bota dealer was most willing to work with me. He didn't have a 22 (they had just come out), but offered to go pick one up (160mi away) so I could take it for a spin.

I'm not anti-JD at all. I had a VERY solid JD332 diesel SCUT for years. You can't really go wrong with either green or orange IMO. Now that JD has a stubbyTLB comparable to the 22/23/24, life is better for the buyer as there are more options...ergo this thread.

cdhd2001 · May 30, 2007

Just to add to the mix....

When I was looking a few months ago the biggest "advantage" touted for and by the orange group was lower price.

When I asked my local orange dealer why I should buy his tractor, his response was that he was "waaay" cheaper than that expensive green tractor.

For my tractor buying experience "waaay" cheaper was less than $1k cheaper for a comparable orange.

Example:

Member "workinallthetime" in post #74 states that his local orange dealer is offering a BX24 for $15,500 to $16,000.

Member "archerynut" in post #46 states that the green BH option is $4,587.47

My JD 2305 with FEL and Box Blade was $12,125 delivered. If I add the 260 BH at the above $4,587 then my grand total would be $16,712.

Both are great tractors, but I don't see how an orange "advantage" can be "waaay" cheaper over the green.

archerynut · May 30, 2007

I agree, it's not waaay cheaper than the green. I think people have the misunderstanding that green is way more expensive due to the color. Not true, in my research the orange actually priced out higher than the green so comparable models. However the red (Massey Ferguson) was Waaay cheaper and seems to just as much tractor as the others.

LBrown59 · May 30, 2007

archerynut said:
I agree, it's not waaay cheaper than the green. I think people have the misunderstanding that green is way more expensive due to the color. Not true, in my research the orange actually priced out higher than the green so comparable models. However the red (Massey Ferguson) was Waaay cheaper and seems to just as much tractor as the others.

When I bought my BX23 I didn't see a JD with a FEL MMM and BH for any where near what I Got the BX23 for.

aesanders · May 30, 2007

LBrown59 said:
When I bought my BX23 I didn't see a JD with a FEL MMM and BH for any where near what I Got the BX23 for.

John Deere did not have a branded backhoe for their subcut when you bought your BX.

aesanders · May 30, 2007

archerynut said:
I agree, it's not waaay cheaper than the green. I think people have the misunderstanding that green is way more expensive due to the color. Not true, in my research the orange actually priced out higher than the green so comparable models. However the red (Massey Ferguson) was Waaay cheaper and seems to just as much tractor as the others.

Congrats on the new Massey 2310. Hope it serves you very well.

cdhd2001 · May 31, 2007

archerynut said:
I agree, it's not waaay cheaper than the green. I think people have the misunderstanding that green is way more expensive due to the color. Not true, in my research the orange actually priced out higher than the green so comparable models. However the red (Massey Ferguson) was Waaay cheaper and seems to just as much tractor as the others.

How did the MF compare in price to the JD and KB?

archerynut · Jun 1, 2007

cdhd2001 said:
How did the MF compare in price to the JD and KB?

There was a considerable price difference. Probably saved between 1200 - 1500 dollars. The MF was more expensive in PA so I went to West Virginia (60 miles) and saved thousands.

cdhd2001 · Jun 7, 2007

archerynut said:
There was a considerable price difference. Probably saved between 1200 - 1500 dollars. The MF was more expensive in PA so I went to West Virginia (60 miles) and saved thousands.

Strange how the price changes so much for you guys in the north east.

archerynut · Jun 7, 2007

cdhd2001 said:
Strange how the price changes so much for you guys in the north east.

The funny part is that there really is no explanation for the increase in price just because you live in the northeast. Is the dollar worth less here in PA rather than WV. I doubt it, there would be an exchange rate like Canada.

fishpick · Jun 8, 2007

archerynut said:
Is the dollar worth less here in PA rather than WV.

There has GOT to be a Foxworthy joke in here somewhere!

aesanders · Jun 10, 2007

archerynut said:
The funny part is that there really is no explanation for the increase in price just because you live in the northeast. Is the dollar worth less here in PA rather than WV. I doubt it, there would be an exchange rate like Canada.

I would argue that the reason tractors cost more in the northeast than most other areas is that it cost more to run the business their. The building costs more to purchase and to operate and wages the dealers pay for employee's are higher in the northeast than say somewhere like WV. All that extra operating expense gets past on to the buying market. That is why a large dealership that supports a larger area makes sense. They can spread the added dealership expense out on a larger amount of mahinery.

stuarth · Jun 23, 2007

I have a 2305 w/25hours, R4's, 200CX loader, 54MMM and a 54" four way snow blade. If interested make an offer. shende@adelphia.net

briwhit · Jul 24, 2007

Well after lurking and reading alot I guess I will post my 2 cents. I have been looking at a Kubota 2350 with a price of 14420.91 and the Deere with the price of 14091.00 cash and like I read in this post earlier my Deere dealer told me 2% more for the part that finace. Then just before I posted I called a diff. Deere dealer and he told me 13091.00 all prices are with tax so I guess my mind is fianally made 1400 dollars will buy me a tiller

So I guess I will talk to the wife tonight (eventho she fit on the bota better) I hope to be getting a Deere. If I do I will let you guys know and post pics. It almost sounds too cheep. Now that I am posting this I wonder if it was with the cx loader if not it should be 300 more which is still 1000 less so someone finally made up my mind. I will keep you informed on the price and if it was too good to be true.

art · Jul 24, 2007

ducati996 said:
Its still an issue with the BX24- just from reading the posts on this site. Sorry Deere dosent offer plastic in crictical areas such as a floor board or fenders. Denpending on the model the hood is 50% or more metal as well

Not so!!! Out of 100 plus tractors we had three! The problem was corrected last year with additional supports under the floor pan.

Deere has used plastic on floors and fenders as it is the most economical way of ridding of sound on tractors!

VABlue · Jul 25, 2007

Briwhit, I paid $13,300 for my 2305 w/ FEL and 54" deck. That price matched the 2350, also. You're getting a fair deal there, enjoy the tractor!

briwhit · Jul 25, 2007

It will be here tomorrow. It was a little diff but still a good deal I think. 2305 62in deck 200cx loader for 13000 before tax and 13780 total. Oh ya and 2 hats now I bleed green. I feel the Deere pedels work better and the reverse does not jurk like the Kubota. But the Kubota steering felt alitte better. The layout of the gauges I felt was better on the Deere too.

broncosfan · Jul 29, 2007

I searched this thread with no luck, can someone tell me how the two campare in this area? Does the 2305 or BX24 have any of these features? HST radiator, Hydraulics radiator, engine oil radiator? thanks.

ChuckinNH · Jul 29, 2007

Both of these tractors use plastic fans to cool the hydrostatic transmission. The hydro fluid that is in the transmission also runs all the hydraulic systems, and is cooled by that fan. The engine on neither has an oil radiator... hope that helps