It was working just fine...

[SalC]

My Kioti LB1914 was working just fine a week ago. When I came back to mow, I heard a clicking sound. The hazard flashers were on! Don't know HOW that could have happened unless the switch caught on my pants when I got off last time or maybe some kids were playing around.

Anyway, the tractor would not start. Duh. I charged the battery and it still would not start. The dashboard lights do not light up. The fuses in the box in the operator area all are good. The fusible link (near the starter) tests OK.

I removed the screws from the dash looking for relays/switches/ etc and found a pile of feathers and hair which looked like a really nice nest. I removed that but did not notice any chewed wires. Still, it was working OK a week ago and the flashers were flashing before I charged it. Can anyone point me to a test procedure to help trace this? Would a service manual be more helpful than the barely legible diagram in the owner's manual.
Thanks,
Sal

 

[Highgear]

So - Any KIDS around ????/

 

[LBrown59]

My Kioti LB1914 was working just fine a week ago. When I came back to mow, I heard a clicking sound. The hazard flashers were on! Don't know HOW that could have happened unless the switch caught on my pants when I got off last time or maybe some kids were playing around.

Anyway, the tractor would not start. Duh. I charged the battery and it still would not start. The dashboard lights do not light up. The fuses in the box in the operator area all are good. The fusible link (near the starter) tests OK.

I removed the screws from the dash looking for relays/switches/ etc and found a pile of feathers and hair which looked like a really nice nest. I removed that but did not notice any chewed wires. Still, it was working OK a week ago and the flashers were flashing before I charged it. Can anyone point me to a test procedure to help trace this? Would a service manual be more helpful than the barely legible diagram in the owner's manual.
Thanks,
Sal

Maybe it got water in the switches .

 

[wallace]

Clean your battery cabels and the ground wire going to the frame.
If you know how see if you can jump the starter make sure all of your shifting levers are in netural.
One other thing to check make sure your PTO lever is not on i beleave there may be a safty switch on the lever.

 

[SalC]

Thanks guys. I can't say if there were kids around for sure. The nearest neighbor is some 600 feet away. The tractor was in the shed so water should not have gotten in.

I will clean the cables and check the PTO and shift lever positions again, but I think I checked those. Even with the clutch out and the PTO engaged, I think you would at least see the dash lights come on when you turn the switch to the pre-heat position. I THINK I heard a click from below the dash once or twice while testing the fusible link with the hazard switch on. Makes me think there is a relay in there which does not power the panel unless a certain voltage appears. All the more reason to make sure the cables and battery are good. I would have tried to jump it with my truck but the way it's parked in the shed did not allow that.

Rick, do you know if there is a 'computer' in there that might need to be rebooted by taking off the ground connection?

 

[JoelD]

Please see recent posts on this subject.

I was a victim of same sort of issue.

Try jumping, if it jumps and then when running you get 13.5 plus volts at the terminals it was probably bad terminal connection with battery.

They need to be super clean, super tight and snug down.

These things draw crazy amps.

Joel

 

[Steve_Miller]

Is your battery stone dead? If I read your post correctly you came back and found the hazard switch on which probably has the battery dead and more than likely ruined as lead acid batteries don't take too well to being completely discharged. If you try and jump it, you may notice whatever you are jumping from be dragged down what you connect the cables, if so and you can get it to start it may be quite a heavy load on the charging circuit due to the discharge condition. Good luck.

Steve

 

[SalC]

The lights were still blinking when I found it. But it was pretty far gone by then. I charged the battery with a 6 amp charger until it indicated it was charged. Still no joy. I used a VOM to check for voltage on the battery. I read approximately 12 volts but it's a 60 volt range so I could have misread it.
It's sitting about 25 miles from here so I'll have to do further diagnosis when I go back this weekend if not sooner.
BTW, the date on the battery is 2004, so it could be getting old. Worth a try to check the battery condition. I could short across the starter post to bypass the solenoid...

 

[JoelD]

Here is thread.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...elp-electrical-problem.html?highlight=battery

Don't spend a whole lot of time on anything prior to reading the attached thread.

I hope the attachment worked.

Joel

 

[SalC]

Thanks, Joel. That was an excellent lesson. I shall check the battery posts directly next time I am out there. There is one difference though and that is that your tractor still had some activity at the lights, while mine shows zilch, nada.
The other posters made good points about the voltage under load. Again, I'll check that. Maybe should just get a new battery on my way out there...