Is the Kubota L2501 the largest 25 hp, non regen tractor?

   / Is the Kubota L2501 the largest 25 hp, non regen tractor? #61  
Wow I just looked up the Branson 2515 specs again to see that it's 3-pt hitch is rated for 3300 lbs. Thats insane. So a 3000lb bare tractor + 1000 lb loader + 3000 lbs on the 3-pt can lift 2000+ lbs with the loader? So you can be pushing over 9000 lbs when fully loaded and operating... with 24 horsepower. Sounds like a recipe for success, lol.
 
   / Is the Kubota L2501 the largest 25 hp, non regen tractor? #62  
Wow I just looked up the Branson 2515 specs again to see that it's 3-pt hitch is rated for 3300 lbs. Thats insane. So a 3000lb bare tractor + 1000 lb loader + 3000 lbs on the 3-pt can lift 2000+ lbs with the loader? So you can be pushing over 9000 lbs when fully loaded and operating... with 24 horsepower. Sounds like a recipe for success, lol.
Yup, The little 2900# and 24hp branson can lift more on both the loader and the 3PH than the 50hp 4-series deere and MX kubotas That are both 1000lbs heavier and 10" longer. Thats 100% believable right?

Kinda remindes me of an argument I had with a coworker one time. He had a little speeco/huskee logsplitter with a 6.5hp engine and 11gpm pump. Their "22" ton version with 4" cylinder. He wanted more power and speed. Tried to tell him that bigger pump would get more speed but bigger cylinder was needed for more power. He swore that all he had to do was put a 10-12hp motor on it to double the splitters power :ROFLMAO: . Tried to tell him it would just be a waste, cause without a bigger pump that HP wasnt gonna increase anything other than fuel consumption. I ended up moving on from that job so I dont know what he ever ended up doing.
 
   / Is the Kubota L2501 the largest 25 hp, non regen tractor? #64  
Have you looked at the Kubota LX2610?
 
   / Is the Kubota L2501 the largest 25 hp, non regen tractor? #65  
Have you looked at the Kubota LX2610?
The guy is wanting a bigger and heavier tractor than the L2501 and you suggest a rebadged B-series that smaller?
 
   / Is the Kubota L2501 the largest 25 hp, non regen tractor? #66  
I thinki you mean you are looking for something prior to Tier 4 Final (2007 to 2013 roughly). Your Tier 3 only applied to engines over 100 hp.

You would be OK with anything Tier 1, Tier 2, or "Tier 4 Interim" for your 30 to 50 hp tractors. ALL manufacturers had changed to Tier 4 Final - which means DPF and full computer emissions systems by 2015 because that was the deadline. MOST made the change in 2013.

If you want a completely mechanical old style diesel to last a lifetime, you'll have to go pre 2007. But the 2007 to 2013 Tier 4 Interim machinses are not a bad compromise. They will work and run at idle, and have individual cylinder mechanical injection and EGR instead of DPF systems.

Don't worry about 3 vs 4 cylinder engines. Both have been around a long time and both are fine.

rScotty
I'm just glad my 1999 L3710 with 800+ hours keeps chugging along.
 
   / Is the Kubota L2501 the largest 25 hp, non regen tractor? #67  
Have you looked at the Kubota LX2610?
OP is looking for the Heaviest 25HP tractor.

The B/LX is not heavier than the standard L series tractors.

Mike
 
   / Is the Kubota L2501 the largest 25 hp, non regen tractor? #68  
I agree. I think its just a marketing thing though. How much of that loader capacity is actually usable?

You could put a loader rated for 5000# lift on one of these tractors.....doesnt mean you are ever gonna be able to lift that much. But they do it for people that only compare paper specs.

I used to have a L3400....which is same basic machine as the 2501. And even with its "weak" loader.....It still took loaded tires and either 1000# in a weight box or 700 pound implement (that sticks back farther) just to keep the rear end on the ground. So any additional loader capacity cannot be utilized unless you add alot more weight than that out back.

Heck, I have a MX, which is 1000 pounds heavier than the branson and 10" longer wheel base. And the branson loader is rated to lift just as much :ROFLMAO:. I have loaded tires (~700lbs), cast wheel weights (~600lbs), and unless I have something 1000 pounds or heavier out back, the loader will lift the rear.

Couldnt imagine this loader on a 10" shorter machine thats 1000# lighter. But hey.....it looks better on paper right? To but big cylinders on a loader even though it cannot utilize the extra capacity and just makes it operate slower.

I feel the same way. My L3800 even with loaded tires and a box blade on the back it still tips forward. Maybe on perfectly level ground with the load perfectly centered you could lift more than the hydraulic relief would allow but overall the loader is a good match for the machine. The same weight machine isn’t going to do 50-75 percent more work. If you need more capacity you need a bigger tractor is all there is to it.
 
   / Is the Kubota L2501 the largest 25 hp, non regen tractor? #69  
Not totally disagreeing with any of that but if either of my loader tractors had 50% more loader capacity AND 50% more breakout force, i'd rarely notice the weight capacity increase but i would appreciate the breakout force constantly!
 
   / Is the Kubota L2501 the largest 25 hp, non regen tractor? #70  
Not totally disagreeing with any of that but if either of my loader tractors had 50% more loader capacity AND 50% more breakout force, i'd rarely notice the weight capacity increase but i would appreciate the breakout force constantly!
Breakout force is just the lift capacity at ground level. Which is always significantly more than max height due to loader geometry and the angle of the cylinders.

Don't confuse it with rollback/curl power...which is much less publicized
 

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