Is a "hybrid" barbed wire fence more friendly to wildlife?

[Gator6x4]

That works for a stall. It is cost prohibited for miles of fence and is why the shock wire along the top.
I hope the op picks up on this alternative with my post to you as I have provided a link for the charger.
Perhaps I should reply directly to the op with this.

Probably. I know when I was young and growing up farmers were turning away from horses and going to mules. Mules could be handled nicely with a 2 wire battery powered electric fence. One had to be careful though if keeping the milk cow in the same pasture with the mules when bringing her to the barn to milk her each day. One would catch the cow, snap a metal cow chain to the collar she was wearing and lead her to the barn after dropping the gate fence. The fun part for the person leading the cow and the cow was if the cow walked faster than the one leading her with the chain and the chain got slack and dragged along the ground and contacted the electric fence wire in weed chopping mode for being dropped on the ground. Don't ask how I know this.

 

[plowhog]

The neighbor has moved his encroaching items back onto his property.

After reviewing the "wildlife friendly" pdf referred to earlier, I decided to install a wildlife friendly fence. A smooth wire top and bottom, with a two barbed wires in between.

In this area of my property there has been a mating bobcat pair. And a doe had a fawn nearby this year. My fence runs near a creek so there is a lot of wildlife traffic.

I'm glad I switched from woven wire to the wildlife friendly design. I saw bobcat tracks in the snow a day or two before work on the fence started.

This type of fence will not be good at keeping humans out if they are determined to cross it. But ... in a rural area a determined human can defeat just about any type of fence.

The only thing I haven't decided upon is whether to leave the top wire bare, or flag or encase it as shown in the diagram. At only 42" height I'm not sure that's really needed.

 

[cqaigy2]

I would be interested in pics if you are so inclined.

 

[jaxs]

Probably. I know when I was young and growing up farmers were turning away from horses and going to mules. Mules could be handled nicely with a 2 wire battery powered electric fence. One had to be careful though if keeping the milk cow in the same pasture with the mules when bringing her to the barn to milk her each day. One would catch the cow, snap a metal cow chain to the collar she was wearing and lead her to the barn after dropping the gate fence. The fun part for the person leading the cow and the cow was if the cow walked faster than the one leading her with the chain and the chain got slack and dragged along the ground and contacted the electric fence wire in weed chopping mode for being dropped on the ground. Don't ask how I know this.

WOW! I'd love to hear,I'm sure others would to about the expreiences you are speaking of. Where was this and what time period? American farmers were using tractors by 1929 when the depression hit and to prevent starvation, government saw to it that farming farther mechanized. Much improved tractors were manufactured and sold starting in 1932. As part of the plan for recovery, Roosevelt issued The Rural Electrification Act in 1935 and congress passed it in 1936. America farmers had tractors long before they had electricity so that's how I knew you must have grown up somewhere besides America. Something else that caught my attention was the need to catch milk cows and lead them in for milking. Everyone I know that milks a cow keeps her calf in the pen and the cow is standing at the gate waiting to be let in with her calf at milking time. Were folks you grew up with not that clever or did they have some means of keeping cows fresh eventhough cow didn't have a calf? Even dairy cows who's calves are sold off line up at milking time waiting to come in when gate is opened. This kind of stuff is far more interesting than fences so since you brought it up I'm looking forward to hearing about it.

 

[Gator6x4]

WOW! I'd love to hear,I'm sure others would to about the expreiences you are speaking of. Where was this and what time period? American farmers were using tractors by 1929 when the depression hit and to prevent starvation, government saw to it that farming farther mechanized. Much improved tractors were manufactured and sold starting in 1932. As part of the plan for recovery, Roosevelt issued The Rural Electrification Act in 1935 and congress passed it in 1936. America farmers had tractors long before they had electricity so that's how I knew you must have grown up somewhere besides America. Something else that caught my attention was the need to catch milk cows and lead them in for milking. Everyone I know that milks a cow keeps her calf in the pen and the cow is standing at the gate waiting to be let in with her calf at milking time. Were folks you grew up with not that clever or did they have some means of keeping cows fresh eventhough cow didn't have a calf? Even dairy cows who's calves are sold off line up at milking time waiting to come in when gate is opened. This kind of stuff is far more interesting than fences so since you brought it up I'm looking forward to hearing about it.

And you are full of B/S. Farms in Rural America were not what you saw on the make for TV Movies. Henry Ford introduced the Red Belly Ford in 1939. It had rubber wheels the old Fordson had metal wheels. That is we’re the saying take a forty acre field to turn the thing around in came from.

Farmers used large tractors to plow fields and disk them. They used mules and horses to cultivate corps of Tobacco, Corn, Cotton, Vegatables.

The Farmsll Cub was introduced in 1947 and started hitting the fields in the late forties and fifties. Horses and mules were still used to sled tobacco and other task. Hard to get a tractor into the woods to snake out wood for heating, cooking and curing tobacco.

And yes we would go get the cow and lead her to the barn to milk. We didn’t go to the supermarket and buy the milk in a plastic container. Also the first milk was in glass containers.

New Technology that you hate that was embraced by people raised on farms is what made America Great.

Many a farm was lost because it was used for collateral to purchase mechanized farm equipment and the rain didn’t come and no crops were produced to pay for the equipment and the Banks foreclosed.

Farmers also had the Great Depression that started in 1929 to hit. Then came WW 11 and Korea. Hard to run a farm when your sons are off fighting and dying.

So all that equipment you fantasize farmers as having was just that a fantasy.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

A new neighbor is encroaching across the property line. I need to get his encroaching items back onto his own property and then fence it to make the property line very visible and stop further encroachment. Oddly, this property line is well marked and flagged. Just a disrespectful neighbor.

I got same problem on property I just bought.
I've never seen any wildlife have a problem with barbed wire fences. We have them all over the farm.

 

[arrow]

The neighbor has moved his encroaching items back onto his property.

After reviewing the "wildlife friendly" pdf referred to earlier, I decided to install a wildlife friendly fence. A smooth wire top and bottom, with a two barbed wires in between.

In this area of my property there has been a mating bobcat pair. And a doe had a fawn nearby this year. My fence runs near a creek so there is a lot of wildlife traffic.

I'm glad I switched from woven wire to the wildlife friendly design. I saw bobcat tracks in the snow a day or two before work on the fence started.

This type of fence will not be good at keeping humans out if they are determined to cross it. But ... in a rural area a determined human can defeat just about any type of fence.

The only thing I haven't decided upon is whether to leave the top wire bare, or flag or encase it as shown in the diagram. At only 42" height I'm not sure that's really needed.

I think if you did a cost prospective of 4000 ft of plain wire fence as opposed to 2000' of barbed plus 2000 ft of wire fence, you would get a better direction. (If indeed you're attempting to fence in 1000 ft of linear fence)..Also figure in the ease of installation of plain wire over barbed. Over 2500 ft of galvanized shock fence wire costs about 65 bucks. 2000' of barbed will cost over $1000.
You could shock the entire 4000 ft with a continuous loop type installation.
A good solar charger might cost a couple hundred but you would never pay for any thing (electricity wise) beyond that.

 

[jaxs]

And you are full of B/S. Farms in Rural America were not what you saw on the make for TV Movies. Henry Ford introduced the Red Belly Ford in 1939. It had rubber wheels the old Fordson had metal wheels. That is we’re the saying take a forty acre field to turn the thing around in came from.

Farmers used large tractors to plow fields and disk them. They used mules and horses to cultivate corps of Tobacco, Corn, Cotton, Vegatables.

The Farmsll Cub was introduced in 1947 and started hitting the fields in the late forties and fifties. Horses and mules were still used to sled tobacco and other task. Hard to get a tractor into the woods to snake out wood for heating, cooking and curing tobacco.

And yes we would go get the cow and lead her to the barn to milk. We didn’t go to the supermarket and buy the milk in a plastic container. Also the first milk was in glass containers.

New Technology that you hate that was embraced by people raised on farms is what made America Great.

Many a farm was lost because it was used for collateral to purchase mechanized farm equipment and the rain didn’t come and no crops were produced to pay for the equipment and the Banks foreclosed.

Farmers also had the Great Depression that started in 1929 to hit. Then came WW 11 and Korea. Hard to run a farm when your sons are off fighting and dying.

So all that equipment you fantasize farmers as having was just that a fantasy.

To lash out in response to questions about your childhood years clearly says you don't care to share your experiences from the time. It's just that we rarely come across anyone today with childhood reaching back to depression and pre-wwII. Had i known it was painful I wouldn't have inquired but in my defense you did bring it up first. I leave you with your thoughts and blame myself for not paying closer attention when my Grandfather talked about farm life in early 20th century.

 

[beenthere]

The newer poles are not good for reuse. The preservatives are designed to quickly leach in soil and provide barrier. Doesn’t work for reuse

Never heard of such a preservative for wood posts. Any resource you know about?