Invisible fence

[quicksandfarmer]

The buried wire fence is based on the length of the wire, which when measured LxW=acreage, is valid. The shape does not matter.

The point is that the wire is sold by length but quoted by acreage. They want to sell you a one-acre wire. How long is that? Well, it depends on the shape. It actually depends a lot.

 

[widefat]

The point is that the wire is sold by length but quoted by acreage. They want to sell you a one-acre wire. How long is that? Well, it depends on the shape. It actually depends a lot.

Yeah, yeah, i'm tracking with you now.

 

[Stancoll]

Update: In a previous post I said that I would go with the wireless invisible fence. I tried it, but returned it. The signal was very weak in front of my house.As some may already be aware, any metal near the signal or in front or rear of the wifi signal gets weakened by the metal, hence my house has the styrofoam with the thin layer of metal on it. That's what degraded it. Great news , I did buy the stubborn dog fence that you bury. I also bought a countyline subsoiler (Thanks TSC) and did my own little mod to it (this project gave me a reason to get the subsoiler). I cut a short piece of PVC water pie and strapped it to the rear of the subsoiler using heavy duty electrical ties (got to get a picture & post). It worked, really surprised myself. My grandson walked behind the tractor (low in first gear) as it cut underground and buried the wire at the same time. I had read several reviews on the subsoiler and they really spoke bad of it. It worked for me. You have to go granny gear slow. Yes, ran into a lot of roots pine, oak, some I did not recognize. Broke through a lot of them, pulled up several and hung up on a few. Back up and go over. The wire does not have to be deep to begin with. Saved my back and knees a lot of trouble.
Tested the wire loop, got a green loop signal and placed the collar on my brittany. Well long story short he's been bitten sevarl times trying out the fence.I think he's tramatized, he won't get off the back porch. PetSafe Invisible fence (TSC) doing its job. I really thank TSC, the young man that helped me as well as their store manager that went above and beyond on getting the subsoiler transferred from the Fitzgerald store to the Eastman store. Now that's customer service!

Subnote: used almost two rolls of wire, probally near 800 or so feet.:cool2::dance1:

 

[tjkubota93]

Update: In a previous post I said that I would go with the wireless invisible fence. I tried it, but returned it. The signal was very weak in front of my house.As some may already be aware, any metal near the signal or in front or rear of the wifi signal gets weakened by the metal, hence my house has the styrofoam with the thin layer of metal on it. That's what degraded it. Great news , I did buy the stubborn dog fence that you bury. I also bought a countyline subsoiler (Thanks TSC) and did my own little mod to it (this project gave me a reason to get the subsoiler). I cut a short piece of PVC water pie and strapped it to the rear of the subsoiler using heavy duty electrical ties (got to get a picture & post). It worked, really surprised myself. My grandson walked behind the tractor (low in first gear) as it cut underground and buried the wire at the same time. I had read several reviews on the subsoiler and they really spoke bad of it. It worked for me. You have to go granny gear slow. Yes, ran into a lot of roots pine, oak, some I did not recognize. Broke through a lot of them, pulled up several and hung up on a few. Back up and go over. The wire does not have to be deep to begin with. Saved my back and knees a lot of trouble.
Tested the wire loop, got a green loop signal and placed the collar on my brittany. Well long story short he's been bitten sevarl times trying out the fence.I think he's tramatized, he won't get off the back porch. PetSafe Invisible fence (TSC) doing its job. I really thank TSC, the young man that helped me as well as their store manager that went above and beyond on getting the subsoiler transferred from the Fitzgerald store to the Eastman store. Now that's customer service!

Subnote: used almost two rolls of wire, probally near 800 or so feet.:cool2::dance1:

After the fence got her the first time, our beagle looked straight at us and pooped on the floor in the house to avoid going outside. (Guess the rolled up paper was preferable to the shock) She wouldn't go outside for a couple days. Funny now, not funny then. It wore off and the fence works great when the wire isn't broke.

 

[bruceha2000]

One that drove me crazy when we were shopping for invisible fences was that they always quoted the size in acres, which is a unit of area, when the dimension that matters is the perimeter of the area, which is a unit of length. An acre is 43,560 square feet. Is your area a rectangle 21,780 x 1 feet, a square 209 feet on a side, or a circle of 82 feet radius? Because they're all one acre, but the amount of fence they take varies enormously.

Your point is accurate, your math is not An acre, as a circle, would be radius 117.8' and take 740 linear feet of wire, the perfect square 835 linear feet. Don't even want to think about the cost of the rectangle in your example!

 

[Stancoll]

Funny. Curious, how's the wire get broken?

 

[quicksandfarmer]

Funny. Curious, how's the wire get broken?

Around here the soil moves a lot when it freezes and thaws. Anything in the soil gets ground together when that happens. If the soil is wet stones get popped out like watermelon seeds.

 

[flewism]

I've had an invisible fence for the last 15 years, and installed it myself, 3 acres covered. I just used the center scarf on the box blade for the trench, it wasn't the cleanest way but it worked. I did have to replace the wire once, the solid wire used today is much more durable than the braded wire they sold on earlier systems. We have trained 3 dogs on the boundaries and all have done well. We did step up to the "stubborn dog collars" that Petsafe sales and heavy duty collars as those cheap plastic clip, cloth collars were getting lost and/or broken.

 

[Stancoll]

OK. makes sense now.

 

[Stancoll]

I've had an invisible fence for the last 15 years, and installed it myself, 3 acres covered. I just used the center scarf on the box blade for the trench, it wasn't the cleanest way but it worked. I did have to replace the wire once, the solid wire used today is much more durable than the braded wire they sold on earlier systems. We have trained 3 dogs on the boundaries and all have done well. We did step up to the "stubborn dog collars" that Petsafe sales and heavy duty collars as those cheap plastic clip, cloth collars were getting lost and/or broken.

I believe mine does not like the taste of the shock or vibration (whatever it is). I figure in a few days or couple of weeks he'll venture further out. he got a full taste of it yesterday when I carrying some dried out plants to toss into the woodline he comes bounding along without a care in the world. he run right over the wire and it popped him. He yipped and made a 90 degree turn and run back over the boundary again and it hit him again. he yipped all the way to the house and was waiting at the steps when I got there. nOw if i just get him to stop chewing everything up. Puppy in him 6 months. What was even funnier, last night returning from church service he met me in the front in the garage. We have an alarm system, he heard it beeping as I punched in the number code to turn it off, his ears wet up and he hightailed it back to the back porch. He's learned that beep beep will bite you.

 

[tjkubota93]

Funny. Curious, how's the wire get broken?

Either stupid people with a tractor using box blade, loader or backhoe, or tree branch fall and stick in ground and cut it, or at+t goob with a trencher replacing line diagnosed as bad.

 

[Stancoll]

Either stupid people with a tractor using box blade, loader or backhoe, or tree branch fall and stick in ground and cut it, or at+t goob with a trencher replacing line diagnosed as bad.

yea, I suppose so. Usually most folks have a general idea where their plumbing or electrical wirse run, but I'm assuming they've been on their property for awhile. My Pastor and I were talking about installing an invisible fence on the parsonage ground but only after calling 811 and finding out a general idea of what we would encounter. Lots of things could happen. I remember back in the 1980's I was in the USAF Reserves on temporary duty in Germany. I was in a Civil Engineering outfit (PRIME BEEF) and was part of the heavy equipment squad. We were widening the area around the Civil Engineering Headquarters compound. The task involved removing a section of rocky hill. We asked our active duty counterparts abouts schematic/blueprints of the electrical and plumbing layout around the compound. There was none, they said just to cut away until we hit something, most likely nothing was there (this airbase has been there since WWII). Real comforting, but orders are orders. I was operating a articulating loader and about halfway through when the commanding officer came running out all excited and yelling. Seems we cut his telephone line as he was in the middle of a intercontinental call (way before cell phones). Well we did ask! PLus there's all kinds of equipment nowadays to detect water, gas, electrical lines now, beats guessing.

 

[HillStreet]

I also had lighting hit my invisible fence. Blew the controller and the GFI outlet it was plugged into right off the wall.

My system was 2 weeks old when it got destroyed.

Same happened to me. Turned it into junk real fast.

 

[Lbdg8885]

I used this adaptation and installed about 500’ in 10 minutes. Works great. I have a video but can’t add it here. If you want to see it I will upload to YouTube.

 

[ray66v]

Funny. Curious, how's the wire get broken?

When I was regularly doing handyman work, I had enough calls to repair breaks in invisible fence wire to invest in tracing equipment.

Usually, it was clearly cut from digging.

It's not always installed properly, and buried deep enough to avoid hazards like core aerators, and people edging with weed whips.

I would usually put plastic conduit over the wire, if it was in an area like a flower bed.

 

[tjkubota93]

When I was regularly doing handyman work, I had enough calls to repair breaks in invisible fence wire to invest in tracing equipment.

Usually, it was clearly cut from digging.

It's not always installed properly, and buried deep enough to avoid hazards like core aerators, and people edging with weed whips.

I would usually put plastic conduit over the wire, if it was in an area like a flower bed.

What type of tracer did you use? I have heard not many work with buried wire.

 

[txdon]

I need to put an invisible fence around my fence, I have a jumper. How far does the signal go out from the buried wire, I don't want to make the dogs yard much smaller.

I understand the wire needs to be in a loop and the wires need to be 6 feet apart if you just loopback around to the control box is this right?

If it is I will need to go along the gutter on the roof on the loop back instead of making the yard 6' smaller. Will the signal coming from the wire on the roof gutter activate the collar?

Thanks.

 

[ray66v]

What type of tracer did you use? I have heard not many work with buried wire.

I have a system similar to the one in the video below, mine is an older version.

It locates buried tracer wires for gas lines too.

It has easily worked to find wire a foot down so far.

I got it used on e-bay, for a fair price.

Underground Wire Locator - YouTube

 

[Pawatch]

Dog Watch hidden fence system works great for me.
I've had it for 5 years.

 

[newbury]

After the fence got her the first time, our beagle looked straight at us and pooped on the floor in the house to avoid going outside. (Guess the rolled up paper was preferable to the shock) She wouldn't go outside for a couple days. Funny now, not funny then. It wore off and the fence works great when the wire isn't broke.

DARN man!! ROFLMAO!