International 424 aux valve question

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Jeff424

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My 424 has 2 aux valve levers under the seat which control valves located to the left of the seat. The right lever is no longer opening it's respective valve. I can move the lever up and down but I see no action at the valve. It looks like it just rotating on the shaft under the seat but is not actually attached to the shaft. Is there a drift pin or a set screw that attaches the lever to the shaft? Does it attach some other way? I can lift the seat to inspect but nothing seems really obvious. Can somebody help me?

Thanks!
Jeff
 
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My 424 has 2 aux valve levers under the seat which control valves located to the left of the seat. The right lever is no longer opening it's respective valve. I can move the lever up and down but I see no action at the valve. It looks like it just rotating on the shaft under the seat but is not actually attached to the shaft. Is there a drift pin or a set screw that attaches the lever to the shaft? Does it attach some other way? I can lift the seat to inspect but nothing seems really obvious. Can somebody help me?

Thanks!
Jeff

I've got a 2424 (industrial model of the 424) I'll take a look tomorrow..
 
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Sorry Jeff, haven't been near the IH these last two days, I'll look after work tomorrow.
 
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Not sure if this link will work or not.

Official Case IH Parts Store and Case IH Catalog for Parts Search and Parts Look Up. Case IH Parts for Case IH Tractors, Case IH Combines, Case IH Tractors, Case IH Manuals, Case IH Parts


If it doesn't work use this link.
Official Case IH Parts Store and Case IH Catalog for Parts Search and Parts Look Up. Case IH Parts for Case IH Tractors, Case IH Combines, Case IH Tractors, Case IH Manuals, Case IH Parts

Enter your model number "424"

Select "Hydraulic System"

Then select "147 HYDRAULIC SYSTEM, AUXILIARY VALVES AND CONNECTIONS"

I think #30 is your issue.

If you can't get them to work ship them and all associated parts to me and I make good use of them. :laughing::p;):confused2:
 
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The parts pages is one of the first places I looked but it didn't show how the lever actually attaches the shaft. Thanks for the help!
 
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I looked through my manuals and other info I have on it, but no luck. I took pictures of the valve knobs left and right to make sure of what your asking.

1st pic right side, 2nd left.
 

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Thanks for the pics Irwin. The valves I am talking about are different from the ones you show. I actually have 2 levers that are on top of the hydraulic fluid case and come out right under the seat. From your pics I can tell you do not have this option. I appreciate your help! Looks like I just need to take stuff apart and dig a little deeper.
 
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Jeff saw this pic on Tractor House it shows the linkage.
 

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/ International 424 aux valve question #9  
new to this how many remotes is there on the 1965 424 tractor i have a freeman front endloader and it work off the same controls as the rear and it makes it hard to run the rear 3 point is there another place i can hook up the front end loader any help on this
thanks John
 
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As far as I know, the 424 has no remotes unless they are the optional front and rear auxiliary valves. 1 set goes to the rear of the tractor and 1 to the front. If you have the control levers located under the front if the drivers seat then you have the aux valves. I'm sure they could be added but sourcing the parts might be difficult. Review the files that have been attached to this thread for more info and compare to your tractor.
 
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yes i do have the valves you are talking about like one that the yellow tractor has in the picture here i can turn them and the front end still goes up and down and the rear does not untill the front end loader is all the way up and then it moves very slow i was thanking i could put a spool valve on the front end load it will take care of it but not sure any help on this ideal
 
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I'm kinda dropping in here late but I have a 2424 with out the auxillary valves, how would you go about just tapping into the Hyd system to run a wood splitter? I had a Super A before that I bought a block to go behind the hydraulic manifold and then just plumbed into the block... Is there anything like that for the 2424? I'm not trying to over simplify but I also don't won't to over complicate. Any help would be appreciated.
Eric
 
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Hi Eric does your log splitter have its own control valve, if so it could be done!!come back to me an I'll post the details for supply and return!!
 
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yes, it has it's on control valve. I believe all I need is a way to tap the pressure.
 
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Bradford Tractor 444 Vary touch Hydraulic valve layout.jpgBradford Tractor 444 Hydraulic lift hsg layout.jpg

Hi Eric follow this for the supply and tap your return into the filler plug.
 
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Thanks!! That's just what I needed!! I really appreciate the help!
 
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Hi Eric!!

One other thing I forgot (sorry). Where you tap off the supply you need to fit an isolator valve capable of operating at 2500psi so the supply to splitter can be isolated when splitter is not in use but still connected, otherwise the 3 point hitch will not work??

Also I presume the valve on the splitter is of the open circuit variety, this is how it needs to be, a closed circuit type will overload and "cook" the hydraulic system ???.
 
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I shouldn't assume, but I "assume" the valve is open center. It worked good on the Super A and that is open center. I figured if it was closed it would have bogged the engine out or blew something out. Is this the same port where a Loader would tap in? If so then the "Power beyond" on the loader valve is what allows someone to use the loader and the 3 point hitch, correct?
Sorry for all the questions, but I appreciate the assistance.
 
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If it worked on the "A" it will be o/k!!

Yes this is the loader tapping and that pipe work includes the isolator valve to turn loader off when using the hitch!!
 
 
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