Interesting: Chinese Mini-Loader

[KentT]

Not sure how they compare in price but, I would think something like this would be competitive with the PT. Ugly little thing but looks pretty darn capable if you scroll down and watch the videos AVANT 200

Barry,

Gehl imports and sells that one's big-brother under their brand name as the Gehl Advantage, in the US:

Gehl Company - Compact Equipment for Construction and Agriculture

Here's an interesting article on these small loaders:

Compact Equipment Cover Story

It reminds me that I'd forgotten the CSF Multione -- these are the closest to what I'd dream of in a PT:
Multione -- especially the SL models. I like these specs -- for my uses: Sl Series Specs

ADDED: Also, see this old discussion thread: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/power-trac/69146-power-trac-wanna-bee.html

 

[MossRoad]

...Just one example -- think of all the small skidsteers used on farms to muck stables, clear stalls, etc. IMO, there'd be a market there for small payloaders that are quicker, more maneuverable, and do less surface damage than traditional skidsteers. They wouldn't have to be "construction grade" -- just solid agricultural grade.

Construction is far more demanding, and requires a heavier duty machine. Then, there's the homeowner/estate owner who doesn't necessarily even need ag-duty machines -- the market that SCUTs is targeted at. IMO, that's the "build level" of PTs -- not ag-duty, certainly not construction-duty, but more a heavy-duty homeowner or estate owner level...

At this price point, I think they'll get some attention, if they can get some kind of distribution network going...

Look at the size of that thing compared to a skid steer. It won't fit where a skid steer can go. If they size it down to fit, it won't have the lifting capacity that a skid steer has. I just don't see any farmers looking at that type of machine when a skid steer will do what they want. Decent used skid steers can be had at auctions for 10 grand. Farmers are a practical bunch. They have big machines for big jobs, an old IH or Deere with a belly mower for the yard, and a beat up skid steer for the stalls. Maybe if corn prices skyrocket due to the ethenol situation, farmers will start spending money on new equipment again, but it seems like too specialized a piece of equipment to own.

I have only seen a couple of the small loaders like the Kubota's around here. They aren't taking off in sales. I've never seen a Gehl or Avant anywhere around here except in a sales yard down closer to Indianapolis.

 

[KentT]

I have only seen a couple of the small loaders like the Kubota's around here. They aren't taking off in sales. I've never seen a Gehl or Avant anywhere around here except in a sales yard down closer to Indianapolis.

At $50K, I can see why they aren't selling like hotcakes -- my point exactly...

As far as size -- they gotta start somewhere. It's not that much bigger than a PT T-18 ($20K, weighing about 4,000 lbs) and smaller than the T-24 ($23K, about 5600 lbs) class, where those prices don't include any attachments...

 

[TRUKFXR]

Interesting Chinese Loader. Wouldn't want one, but always neat to see something different. Can not imagine wanting a manual trans on something like that.
As regards to the avant/gehl equipment. I have the Gehl AL20dx. The Gehl is the same as the 500 series Avant and made by Avant for U.S. distribution. I am very happy with its performance and function. Unlike the Power trac and Multi-one tractor it does not oscillate. It articulates only. I enjoy reading the Power Trac coments because my tractor is similar in capability to the 425 series. Different, but similar. I considered the kubota and John deer cut, but am very glad I made the choice I did. If I ever figure out how to use my camera, I'll post some pictures. I use the power trac mowers on my tractor now. I mow about 4 acres. Use the box blade and rake to maintain my drive (about 1500 ft).

 

[Barryh]

Barry,

Gehl imports and sells that one's big-brother under their brand name as the Gehl Advantage, in the US:

Gehl Company - Compact Equipment for Construction and Agriculture

Here's an interesting article on these small loaders:

Compact Equipment Cover Story

It reminds me that I'd forgotten the CSF Multione -- these are the closest to what I'd dream of in a PT:
Multione -- especially the SL models. I like these specs -- for my uses: Sl Series Specs

ADDED: Also, see this old discussion thread: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/power-trac/69146-power-trac-wanna-bee.html

Very interesting article in deed. As these little utility machines flood the market, there should be more upper end used machines floating around for sale at a decent price. That Multione is one impressive machine. Looks like it might hold the title for attachment king with up to 50 attachments. Wish they had separate pictures for all of the attachments. I’m always looking for new ideas to add to my list.

 

[Barryh]

Interesting Chinese Loader. Wouldn't want one, but always neat to see something different. Can not imagine wanting a manual trans on something like that.
As regards to the avant/gehl equipment. I have the Gehl AL20dx. The Gehl is the same as the 500 series Avant and made by Avant for U.S. distribution. I am very happy with its performance and function. Unlike the Power trac and Multi-one tractor it does not oscillate. It articulates only. I enjoy reading the Power Trac coments because my tractor is similar in capability to the 425 series. Different, but similar. I considered the kubota and John deer cut, but am very glad I made the choice I did. If I ever figure out how to use my camera, I'll post some pictures. I use the power trac mowers on my tractor now. I mow about 4 acres. Use the box blade and rake to maintain my drive (about 1500 ft).

Some pictures would be nice for sure. I would like to see it going through it's paces. As you said, always interesting to see something a little different from time to time.

 

[ponytug]

So... Why did you buy the Gehl? Pros? Cons? Do it again?
No point in keeping the discussion red or green.

Always wondering what the grass looks like on the other side of the fence.

All the best,

Peter

Interesting Chinese Loader. Wouldn't want one, but always neat to see something different. Can not imagine wanting a manual trans on something like that.
As regards to the avant/gehl equipment. I have the Gehl AL20dx. The Gehl is the same as the 500 series Avant and made by Avant for U.S. distribution. I am very happy with its performance and function. Unlike the Power trac and Multi-one tractor it does not oscillate. It articulates only. I enjoy reading the Power Trac coments because my tractor is similar in capability to the 425 series. Different, but similar. I considered the kubota and John deer cut, but am very glad I made the choice I did. If I ever figure out how to use my camera, I'll post some pictures. I use the power trac mowers on my tractor now. I mow about 4 acres. Use the box blade and rake to maintain my drive (about 1500 ft).

 

[3238dpw]

I always thought this would be a great idea for the 425 to help with the low lift hight problem. ag
Scott

 

[Barryh]

Interesting Chinese Loader. Wouldn't want one, but always neat to see something different. Can not imagine wanting a manual trans on something like that.
As regards to the avant/gehl equipment. I have the Gehl AL20dx. The Gehl is the same as the 500 series Avant and made by Avant for U.S. distribution. I am very happy with its performance and function. Unlike the Power trac and Multi-one tractor it does not oscillate. It articulates only. I enjoy reading the Power Trac coments because my tractor is similar in capability to the 425 series. Different, but similar. I considered the kubota and John deer cut, but am very glad I made the choice I did. If I ever figure out how to use my camera, I'll post some pictures. I use the power trac mowers on my tractor now. I mow about 4 acres. Use the box blade and rake to maintain my drive (about 1500 ft).

Not to stray off topic. I know this is way out there, but speaking of something different. I just had to post this interestng amazing feat. Agriculture equipment, farm magazines, farm equipment, farm inventions, farm machinery, agriculture machinery

 

[TRUKFXR]

Ponytug,
I wanted the diesel engine. Needed the extra lift height the the Gehl offers. Found a good deal on a used machine (the only way to buy one, otherwise they are too pricey). Not many accessories available from Gehl.
They don't keep the mowers (no real demand) and the accessories are expensive anyway. With a little innovation, the power trac stuff can be made to work. Dealer support is only fair (not a lot of these units out there).
Some of the things I really admire about the design (very easy access to most systems) and some things could use some improvement, but then what doesn't. Would I buy another -----man, in heart-beat. Would I recommend one------you betcha. Those of you who own power-tracs understand the
enthusiasm there is for this type of tractor.