Impossible to buy engine parts!

[Egon]

For some of your questions it's best to go to an engine rebuilder and find out all the details and cost.

Also consider the condition of the rest of the engine components and the hours?? on them.

After that maybe consider a complete new engine. It may be the cheapest way to go in the long haul.

There are times one must stand back and look at the situation from a distance to perceive all aspects.

Egon

 

[kayssupply]

OK, I should have reread the thread. I will further expose my ignorance. I didn't know that there were unsleeved Yanmars. Are all the later models unsleeved or just some? I am interested because I have two machines with Yanmar engines I use myself. One a trackhoe and one a truckster. How could we find out which are sleeved and unsleeved?

 

[Jackbax]

Reed,

The best way would be to find a parts book on the engines and see if sleeves are offered for them.

Jack

 

[lens12]

I emailed you on 3/22/04 with pricing on all the parts you requested to overhaul your engine including oversize rod bearings, main bearings , pistons , & rings. The parts are available. You just have to order them. Yes it is possible to sleeve n engine tht doen't have sleeves. I,ve had this done a couple times. I had one customer that purchased a Viet recon FX28 that was all ready sleeved. The problem was they didn't use OEM parts or mike the parts & when it warmed up it would seize. They did a complete overhaul since the rebuilder didn't know what parts were to spec & which weren't.

 

[thegreatrandini]

U are correct. Just an added thought about Wichita Kansas. The city is loaded with machinist. You see Boeing is located there. Alot of machinist have come in and then quit or been laid off etc.... Anyway I bet you could find a shop in Wichita that could make a new block if needed. Those guys can do any thing. I used to on this dudes side but now I don't know. The things he says make no sense. I wonder if he is not just a yanmar basher? If he is that mechanical why not just split the tractor and take the block into a machine shop? I know that would be the cheapest way. I also think he could just buy bigger pistons and bore the block to match. Wichita has lots of men who can do it. Also, what parts does he need. He may only need a few parts. He may be able to bore and sleeve just the one cylinder. I think he should sell the whole thing and buy a john deer... (which was made by Yanmar) /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Wichita_Dennis]

Dear Leonard:
You wrote that you e-mailed me prices on the oversize pistons and rings I need? I certainly didn't receive it.

If you can get oversize parts for this engine my problems are solved! I'm keeping my fingers crossed but I don't understand how you can get them when every other Yanmar dealer told me they were'nt available (never made by Yanmar).

Maybe they just didn't want to fool with a small order from overseas.

If you can get them I'm back in business!

Please resend the e-mail you wrote of to: dennis@istanbullies.com

Thank you so much.

Dennis

 

[LMTC]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( but I don't understand how you can get them when every other Yanmar dealer told me they were'nt available (never made by Yanmar).
)</font>
Can't you just accept what someone is offering without being snotty about it on every response? You have been offered several potential resolutions and continually manage to find a way to take a swipe at someone. I'm beginning to get a better picture of what the dealer's side of this may be. Some people just love a problem because they think a license to whine comes with it--and they prefer that over a solution. All you are doing at this point is alienating a goodly number of people who have followed this problem.
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Please resend the e-mail you wrote of to: dennis@istanbullies.com
)</font> Why? So you can say you didn't get it again? Len's email is in his post...you email him! And why is your email address---istanbullies.com--some raunchy-lyrics band web domain?
I don't think I've ever been as put off by someone's serial posts as by yours.

 

[normde2001]

Dennis, are you sure you have been dealing with "authorized Yanmar parts dealers" as listed on the Yanmar web site, or just guys that sell a few gray market tractors? These authorized dealers are the only ones that can get Yanmar parts.

 

[jmf7112001]

Good going LMTC. Thank you for your remarks. I was just about to say it all, but you sized it up find. Some people rather hunt for a problem rather than a solution. Lens remarks about sending parts quote said it all.

 

[Wichita_Dennis]

To answer LMTCs Questions:

(1) I'm sorry you read something into my question "( but I don't understand how you can get them when every other Yanmar dealer told me they were'nt available (never made by Yanmar)." that I never intended. I sincerely Thanked Len and am pleased to accept his offer. Wer'e you just in a bad mood when you read it?

(2) re: "( Please resend the e-mail you wrote of to: dennis@istanbullies.com
) Why? So you can say you didn't get it again?" - No, because in order for me to receive his price quotes Len is the one that has to send it. Len offered and I accepted his offer. How could it have been done otherwise?

(3) Re: "And why is your email address---istanbullies.com--some raunchy-lyrics band web domain? " So now in addition to telling others how and where to buy tractor parts you are telling them what kind of MUSIC they should listen to? What possible business of yours is it what kind of music I prefer? What are you - the self appointed internet music police?

(4) After reading your post I just assumed you must just be a ****. However, I now see your real motive. You sell used Yanmars and parts. My honest comments have hurt your business? A quick search on the internet reveals that in just the last 4 years you have 56 unresolved BBB complaints from your Miami "operation". In 18 years my business has ZERO. Don't try to flim-flam me. I see by your other posts you just try to shut up anyone who has had a bad experience with you or Yanmars.

I'm getting this problem of mine resolved, thank you. Despite naysayers like you, I've found my parts and answers. This forum works despite your attempts otherwise.

Go back and read my posts. Count the number of times I sincerely thanked those who helped. Your post was both unnecessary and childish. If I have offended anyone besides LMTC, I apologize.

 

[LMTC]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( A quick search on the internet reveals that in just the last 4 years you have 56 unresolved BBB complaints from your Miami "operation" )</font>
Most interesting, and as inaccurate as the rest of your posts. We aren't in Miami. Not even in Florida. Perhaps you'll post the link to the Better Business Bureau page that shows 56 unresolved complaints against us in the last 4 years.

I've said my piece and you clearly understand it. I would not want to do business with you, and if that makes us both happy, so much the better. I will, however, respond to blatant misrepresentation of our business. You can have your opinion and whine on till the cows come home as far as I care, but bring some documentation to the table when you claim we have 56 unresolved complaints according to the BBB.
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Ernie even posted flat out lies about me, in TBY public forum, in an attempt to shut me up. )</font> Oh yeah, I forgot. You're the same guy who said Ernie lied..and we're ALL familiar with his lack of credibility. Yep, Ernie and LMTC, two of the known villains in this industry.

 

[Inspector507]

BTW Wayne,
Just for my own curosity I searched the main BBB site and the site local to you......however it seems there are NO complaints listed against you or your company that I could find.
Of course I don't know if could trust what you say anyway.....you villain you /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Just teasing friend

 

[DavesTractor]

Now Wayne as well as Ernie.....and to think I've trusted and worked with these scoundrels for years. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

I'll even send parts to Wayne and tell him to just pay me when he gets the part. For now on, I'll have to make sure I get paid in advance with certified funds. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Seriously, there are not any more honest guys than Wayne and Ernie. This BBB stuff simply is hogwash.

Let's put this behind us. It's been entertaining but has degraded to the point where it now has no value.

 

[gbirky]

In answer to the sleeved v.s. unsleeved engines, none of the Yanmar engines are "unsleeved". The difference is that some are a wet sleeve and some are dry sleeve. A wet sleeve design usually has cast sleeves which are quite thick. They are easily removable and replaceable without machining. The outside of the sleeve is in direct contact with coolant - thus the "wet" sleeve description.

Most small diesel engines manufactured today, including Yanmar, are dry sleeved. It is completely equivalent to typical automobile gasoline engine design. The sleeves can be removed by machining, and new ones can be pressed in. The dry sleeves are typically very thin walled. This is done very frequently by machine shops. In fact, some high value vintage blocks have been overbored enough times that they have to be re-sleeved in this way.

A buddy of mine recently did an overhaul of his Kubota L185. It has a dry sleeve engine. He described the process of rebuilding, including machining out the old sleeves and insertion of the new sleeves.

Now for the Yanmar engine, I would highly recommend getting the OEM sleeves. Otherwise it will be difficult to ensure that you get the correct clearances and correct material. It can be done otherwise, but you need a good tech reference to get the correct sleeve specifications. I definately would NOT recommend boring the block for insertion of wet sleeves. I don't think this would work well. The wet sleeve normally has rubber seals to maintain separation of the water jacket and the crankcase. The water jacket design of the dry sleeve engine may not be compatible with a wet sleeve.

 

[Tractors4u]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( (2) re: "( Please resend the e-mail you wrote of to: dennis@istanbullies.com
) Why? So you can say you didn't get it again?" - No, because in order for me to receive his price quotes Len is the one that has to send it. Len offered and I accepted his offer. How could it have been done otherwise? )</font>

I believe you misunderstood Wayne's comment here. Len's e-mail address is in his signature. Just click on it, send him an e-mail request the price and he will reply back to you. Some of these dealers are too busy to surf the tractor forums everyday all day looking for people to help. Len might not see your message for a few days. If you sent him an e-mail however, that would show you are serious and I am sure he would promptly e-mail you.

And to vouch for that scoundrel Wayne, he is in Ohio not Florida. In his profile it shows his location as Ohio. Click on his website and it shows it is in Ohio. Not to kick you while you are down, but if your search for Yanmar parts is anything like your background search of Wayne, I can see why you have had problems getting parts.

 

[Bird]

It appears that Len has solved Dennis' problem, some erroneous information has been posted, and tempers are flaring, so I think it's time to close this thread.