Identify This Snake

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Too bad snakes have a killer reputation ,without em we'd be overrun with rodents, I haven't killed one in many years, though an aggresive poisonous snake near a loved one/pet would have to go. hope I'd be able to safely move it not kill it, but if no other way, a dangerous snake would have to die before I'd give it a chance to hurt me or mine.
Snakes, the vast majority of them are very helpfull critters, even the poisonous ones keep nasty rats and mice under control..
 
   / Identify This Snake #22  
irwin said:


Too bad snakes have a killer reputation ,without em we'd be overrun with rodents, I haven't killed one in many years, though an aggresive poisonous snake near a loved one/pet would have to go. hope I'd be able to safely move it not kill it, but if no other way, a dangerous snake would have to die before I'd give it a chance to hurt me or mine.
Snakes, the vast majority of them are very helpfull critters, even the poisonous ones keep nasty rats and mice under control..

I try to move them off, when I encounter them. That being so, we don't have much for poisonous snakes in New England (good! :) ).
 
   / Identify This Snake #23  
The feud between Man and Snake goes way back...it's almost like we are programmed to hate them.

I used to kill every snake I saw and would even go somewhat out of my way to find and kill them.

No more.

They still give me the heebie-jeebies but unless they're a threat (which is almost never) I won't kill them.

We had a garter snake that took up residence in the basement window well. I don't know what it was eating but it stayed there for at least a week before I fished him out and transplanted him over to the neighbor's unmowed land. He came back (at least I think it's the same snake) and now lives in the woodpile. I see him almost every time I mow and have nearly run over him a couple of times. Now I stop the mower about ten feet away from the pile and give him time to vamoose before I mow around the wood. There is another big grey snake that I've seen when mowing but don't know where he lives.

We see quite a few for living on flat ground that is almost all mowed short and offers no cover for snakes. I would think the hawks and owls would find them easy prey.
 
   / Identify This Snake #24  
I kill the copperheads, leave the non-venomous ones alone. A couple weeks ago I was leaving the house right at dark and saw the biggest copperhead I've ever seen on the edge of the driveway on the opposite end from the house. I stopped the truck to see what kind of snake it was and it struck my tires several times and I got a better look at it and knew what it was. I backed up and tried to run it over but it was on a slope by the creek culvert and I couldn't get it. Unfortunately I didn't have the pistol in the truck.

I worry about them biting one of my dogs more than anything. Last night went up to the shop and saw a rat when I flipped the lights on. The kennels surround the shop, and with rats close I'm sure the snakes will follow. Going to get rat traps today.
 
   / Identify This Snake #25  
cp1969 said:
Does it have round pupils in the eyes? If so, it is non-poisonous. If it has a slit like a cat, it is poisonous.

I can't see the shape of their pupils while dancing around and jumping 6' up in the air! Just a normal reaction for me, and looking em in the face to try and see their eyes is the last thing I'm gunna be caught doing while their alive!! Ye-ha
 
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I worry about them biting one of my dogs more than anything

That's just what we were most concerned about.
 
   / Identify This Snake #27  
Bird,

I'd a done the same thing. When it comes to the safety of me and mine I shoot first and ask questions later.

When I come across a snake out in the wild I give him the right of way. But if he comes around the house and there's even the slightest question of whether or not he's poisonous I'll send him on to the Great Snake Beyond and hope I made the right choice.

hud
 
   / Identify This Snake #28  
I seldom ever kill a snake. They're just too valuable (I hate rats and mice!). And, I've never really understood the utter hatred many folks have for them. A LOT of people indiscriminately kill all snakes regardless if they're poisonous or not. Poisonous snakes found near the house are simply handled with a garden hoe/rake or a snake stick, dropped in a 5 gallon bucket and transported to a more appropriate habitat (usually deep in the woods far from any houses). Most non-poisonous snakes I come across I'll catch, play with for a few minutes, and release. Some get to come to the house and spend a few days in a nice comfortable terrarium where the boys can get more familiar with them. I can easily and immediately tell the difference between the harmless and dangerous snakes that I'm likely to encounter. I want my boys to be able to do the same. It might mean the difference between life and death some time (both for the snake and for my boys :)).

My wife even understands the benefit of snakes. If she comes across a non-poisonous snake (and, yes, she can identify them too) while mowing grass or working in the yard, she'll usually just shoo them away while she gets on with whatever she's doing. She does draw the line at having poisonous snakes in the house. :D Whenever a copperhead comes home for the terrarium, the terrarium has to remain outside on the porch. And then, only for a couple of days.

As with most things, education is the key. Get to know the snakes in your area. Knowing them well might save you from hurting yourself trying to get away from a harmless, beneficial non-poisonous snake. And, by the way, I haven't been able to locate a source for the statistics, but I recall reading somewhere that most people bitten by poisonous snakes were trying to kill the snake when bitten. If they'd just left the snake alone, they likely wouldn't have been bitten.

I grew up out in the sticks. As a kid with no internet, no video games, and only 3 TV channels, catching frogs, lizards, snakes, scorpions, and spiders was what my cousins and I did for entertainment. My dad was bitten on the bottom of his foot by a copperhead as a kid. He was going down to the spring to get a jug of milk that was there being "refrigerated" by the cool spring water. He was barefooted and saw the snake too late to avoid stepping on it. Can't blame the snake. It was just minding its own business down in the woods nowhere near any houses. So, my dad made it a point to educate me early on to be able to identify them (and other dangerous critters).

Sorry for the long post. This is just one of my pet peeves. I tend to go into rant mode when discussing the needless killing of snakes.

Later,

BR
 
   / Identify This Snake #29  
This evening while doing some clearing my son picked up a big rock and found this underneath, it's now dead.

BlackWidow.JPG


picture doesn't have anything to show size, but it was very large for a black widow.
 
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Jaybr said:
This evening while doing some clearing my son picked up a big rock and found this underneath, it's now dead.

picture doesn't have anything to show size, but it was very large for a black widow.

Now, THAT is my wife's greatest fear. Black widows and brown recluse spiders get killed without remorse around my place. :D
 

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