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[2LaneCruzer]

Take heart, people. CO2 levels in the Jurassic were five times what we have today and things were hunky dory.

Dinosaur Era Had 5 Times Today's CO2 | Live Science

It was all caused by the dinosaurs and eventually resulted in their demise. They consumed copious amount of vegetation; and the unique bacterial flora of their digestive tract, combined with the digestive process, resulted in an extraordinary flatulence. The resulting expulsion of gasses...including CO2, H2S and CH4, being green house gasses, caused the global warming. This wasn't so much of a problem, but it also resulted in an insatiable libido/****** appetite; requiring the dinosaurs to mate continually...the final result was that they copulated themselves to death, albeit in a warm and cozy climate. And now you know the rest of the story.

 

[Jstpssng]

The latest is that with the fires in Brazil we have allegedly lost the battle.

 

[2LaneCruzer]

The latest is that with the fires in Brazil we have allegedly lost the battle.

I fear deforestation even more that the air emissions.

 

[rekees4300]

...the final result was that they copulated themselves to death

At least they died with a smile on their faces. :rotfl:

 

[2LaneCruzer]

 

[CalG]

Socially, one can be quite optimistic about our situation here on earth.

The rapid advances in "human progress" on recent times that is claimed by alarmists as the cause for global climate change, is also responsible for the unprecedented reduction in abject poverty, malnutrition and significant increase in overall well being of our world's inhabitants. It's been shown that until a social group is lifted out of poverty, world issues like climate , population, pollution etc. are not considered important. And that level is not so very high at all, call it "food security". Blame all those good things on fossil fuels and petrochemicals.

In "simpler times", average life expectancy was around 30 years. Child mortality was off the charts. Do you wish to return?

Restructured land formations will not be a catastrophe for a civilized society. We should work on civility before we all get our undies in a bunch over sea levels.

 

[turnkey4099]

Yep we are.

And we damned sure don't need a one world government.

And if he really believes that nature isn't the biggest contributor, I like to see some real hard numbers from an active volcano,
I don't know who you would be able to believe in those .

When I think of all the gases and pollution sent up when Mt. Saint Helen blew her cork.
I do believe that one instance did more in a few days then man in a few thousand years.
Also the year with no summer, 1816 in New England from a volcano.
I'm not going to advocate completely unregulated pollution but it needs to be looked at in a more dollar and cents manner.

What you are ignoring is that volcanos have been spewing since day one and their output is part of ...call it normal, climate. Man's out put is in ADDITION to natures. Yes, man is adding CO2 to the atmosphere in gobs and bunches.

 

[turnkey4099]

Experts declared in the 1970's that the earth was going into a cooling cycle and warned about food shortages in the decades to come. In the 90's they switched to global warming and politicians latched onto it. Climate change has become a powerful political tool both for people seeking higher office and world organizations like NATO

Furthermore climate change has now become a world wide religion with zealots as extreme as found in other faiths

And, as expected, that old myth surfaces. The "experts" never did that. There were some 'popular science specuations, yss. experts did not take them seriously.

 

[turnkey4099]

This is something that has been quantified. Here are two sources (one US gov't, one independent UK newspaper) that show that the amount of CO2 emitted by volcanoes is dwarfed by that emitted by humans:
Which emits more carbon dioxide: volcanoes or human activities? | NOAA Climate.gov
Iceland volcano gives warming world chance to debunk climate sceptic myths | Leo Hickman | Environment | The Guardian

Chris

And teh awkward fact that man's contribution adds to natures.

 

[CalG]

And teh awkward fact that man's contribution adds to natures.

And somehow, in your mind, man is not also nature?

Somehow I feel you are missing the entire saga.

No one would give an ant's *** about this planet if HUMANS were not part of it,

jees; say'n

 

[Chris616]

Take heart, people. CO2 levels in the Jurassic were five times what we have today and things were hunky dory.

And during the Jurassic period the global average temperature was only about 3 degrees Centigrade above what it is today. The evidence is that there were no glaciers or ice caps at the poles. All the water was in the oceans (or some fresh water lakes).
Jurassic - Wikipedia

Chris

 

[Chris616]

I'm not a huge climate change believer. I think we have a pollution problem, but climate change and pollution are mutually exclusive and should not be used interchangeably.

I'm an Actuary and I only deal in CREDIBLE numbers. For data to be credible, it must be; definable, repeatable, and more than 100 unique data points. We also use a fator to adjust data points, 100 points is far less predictable than 1000 points, so we assign a higher credibility to more data points by way of a completion factor.

Climate science with all the above data prerequisites is non existent.

Your colleagues in the insurance business disagree. Here's a quote from the article linked below:
"Some industries seem to have had trouble believing the scientists who warn that human activity is warming the planet by releasing long-sequestered carbon. The insurance business is an exception..."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/fort-mac-climate-insurance-1.3576918

Chris

 

[Alan W.]

Nero fiddled while Rome burned. Humans keep playing their games while Mother Earth melts.

Actually Nero lived in the first century and fiddles twerent invented until the sixteenth century.

 

[sd455dan]

Your colleagues in the insurance business disagree. Here's a quote from the article linked below:
"Some industries seem to have had trouble believing the scientists who warn that human activity is warming the planet by releasing long-sequestered carbon. The insurance business is an exception..."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/fort-mac-climate-insurance-1.3576918

Chris

and then there is the Department of Defense...


Climate change threatens a majority of mission-critical military bases, Pentagon report says

 

[newbury]

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No one would give an ant's *** about this planet if HUMANS were not part of it,

jees; say'n

Brilliant - no one would be here to give an "ant's ***".

 

[CalG]

Brilliant - no one would be here to give an "ant's ***".

The methane farting cows would be here, as would the ants, just to keep the planet tidy.

 

[turnkey4099]

And somehow, in your mind, man is not also nature?

Somehow I feel you are missing the entire saga.

No one would give an ant's *** about this planet if HUMANS were not part of it,

jees; say'n

Oh, yeah, we are part of nature...almost too much so. We should be classified as a parasite, we take everything we can get and give back nothing.

Somehow I feel that you don't get the point about us ADDING TO NATURE CO2 and other green house gases.

 

[Snobdds]

 

[Chris616]

Scientific Consensus | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

 

[Egon]

Scientific Consensus | Facts Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

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Ah; everyone knows that all scientist are on the take and lie to us. They falsify the data to whatever they wish for grant money!

Makes one wonder how all those space missions or say the electronic devices came into being. Looking at the logistics and machinery of some of the recent manufacturing processes makes one wonder why only the climatologist scientific are considered not honest.