I need a new (used) truck

   / I need a new (used) truck #21  
"it would be worth while changing the final drive to 4.88 and adding in an Auburn LSD at the same time"

You mean Lysergic acid diethylamide is legal?

I have no clue what an Auburn LSD is.

auburn is a popular maker of aftermarket rear end differentials

Leading Manufacturer of Traction Enhancing Differentials & Planetary Drives - Auburn Gear

LSD (listed after "auburn") = limited slip differential.

or perhaps the easyest answer for next time

Auburn LSD - Google Search

as to your org question

it would help to know a bit more about what criteria are important....

expected use ie towing capacity?
4wd capability?
4 door, excab, standard cab?
fuel sipping 4cyl or power hungry fuel hog V8
 
   / I need a new (used) truck
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#22  
it would help to know a bit more about what criteria are important....

expected use ie towing capacity?
No, I don't tow much, rental yard stuff infrequently

4wd capability?
I really like 4WD, we have a place in Tahoe and without 4WD its put on the chains to get there. But, I'd sacrifice that if I have too.

4 door, excab, standard cab?
Probably just an extra cab although if I can find a decent used at a decent price, I'm flexible.

fuel sipping 4cyl or power hungry fuel hog V8[/quote]

I just have yet to see a huge differnece in any engine configuration given the same criteria i.e. 4WD etc. My goal is to use as little fuel as possible. I would love the nice quiet diesels they make today however, they are just to costly for my budget.
 
   / I need a new (used) truck #23  
I have a 2005 Nissan Frontier extended cab. This truck has a 4 cam V-6 with 4WD and 6 speed manual.
The truck is quick!! But what really amazed me is the fuel economy. I'm averaging 19-20 MPG combined city and highway driving.
The earlier Nissan trucks (pre-2005) have a reputation as tough trucks, but the engines were underpowered.
Paid just under 17K for the Nissan. It had 66000 miles on it when I bought it.
 
   / I need a new (used) truck #24  
I have a 2005 Ranger. These have the 2.3, but not the old German Ford based engine of the past. This is the Mazda based 2.3

With 5 speed, and mind you, this is just a truck, nothing fancy, it get 29 mpg all day long. Steady commute of 100 miles and it will do 31 mpg with summer gas. The EPA sticker, at the time, stated highway mpg at 29 mpg. It wasn't a lie.

Now if Ford would just bring their World Ranger, sold elsewhere, with diesel, to the States. It achieves 41 mpg and has grunt. This has almost none.
 
   / I need a new (used) truck #25  
I have a 2005 Nissan Frontier extended cab. This truck has a 4 cam V-6 with 4WD and 6 speed manual.
The truck is quick!! But what really amazed me is the fuel economy. I'm averaging 19-20 MPG combined city and highway driving.
The earlier Nissan trucks (pre-2005) have a reputation as tough trucks, but the engines were underpowered.
Paid just under 17K for the Nissan. It had 66000 miles on it when I bought it.

+1

Really toyota tacoma and a frontier are in direct competition with each other. there products are VERY VERY simular.

the the Taco you can get a bigger engine, and such, but it costs significantly more.

Id shop around for a excab Taco 4wd with elocker in the rear in the 4cyl config. although the 3.4L V6 5vze is a great engine and much more popular. I also prefer the 5spd over the auto for dependability.
 
   / I need a new (used) truck #26  
Someone said something about their Dakota being roomier than a Ranger or a Tacoma. Toyota changed the body in 2005, and my '05 gives me plenty of room. I'm 6'2", with long legs and still have quite a bit of room to move the seat back. Head room is better than the Ranger; a full fistful of space overhead. I have not looked at the Dakota. The 2005+ style is similar to earlier models, but side by side, the later ones are clearly larger, probably almost as large as a Dakota.

Check reliability. Before I went for the Tacoma, I asked every Toyota owner I knew about repairs and they hadn't had anything more than normal maintenance. I am sure there are exceptions, but overall, their reputation for reliability is probably justified. And the price difference I paid between a Ranger and a Tacoma would easily have covered the cost of the Ranger repairs I had--and it wouldn't have spent weeks in the shop.

After having owned one Dodge and having driven several at work, I was sold on not buying a Dodge. Air leaks thru door handles (right by the steering wheel, blowing cold air on the hands in the winter), water leaks around the windshield (had an electrical fire in the dash because of this), poor starting (well, that WAS pre-fuel injection--Chrysler didn't know how to make a choke), multiple transmission repairs until the fleet manager thru it into reverse at 35 mph to insure we would get a new tranny rather than wait while they fixed the original for the 3rd time. They may have improved their body quality since those days, but there is one other consideration--Will Chrysler still be in business 5 years from now?
 
   / I need a new (used) truck #27  
Will Chrysler still be in business 5 years from now?
Ha Ha! That's a good one! The way things are going right now, I would be more worried about Toyota going under. :laughing:
The Tacoma's are larger now but he is looking at the used vehicles so most likely it would be the older smaller Tacoma's. By the way, if you do look at older Tacoma's, don't forget to see if it is part of the other massive Toyota recall. The Tacoma frames were rotting out prematurely. Real quality there...
http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/toyota/TYT2008030714643.aspx
 
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Ha Ha! That's a good one! The way things are going right now, I would be more worried about Toyota going under. :laughing:
The Tacoma's are larger now but he is looking at the used vehicles so most likely it would be the older smaller Tacoma's. By the way, if you do look at older Tacoma's, don't forget to see if it is part of the other massive Toyota recall. The Tacoma frames were rotting out prematurely. Real quality there...
Toyota Vehicles : Toyota Announces Customer Support Program For 1995-2000 Tacoma Pickups / Toyota

You would really be more worried about Toyota going under than Chrysler? I would not want you as my financial adviser. :laughing:
 
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Someone said something about their Dakota being roomier than a Ranger or a Tacoma. Toyota changed the body in 2005, and my '05 gives me plenty of room. I'm 6'2", with long legs and still have quite a bit of room to move the seat back. Head room is better than the Ranger; a full fistful of space overhead. I have not looked at the Dakota. The 2005+ style is similar to earlier models, but side by side, the later ones are clearly larger, probably almost as large as a Dakota.

Check reliability. Before I went for the Tacoma, I asked every Toyota owner I knew about repairs and they hadn't had anything more than normal maintenance. I am sure there are exceptions, but overall, their reputation for reliability is probably justified. And the price difference I paid between a Ranger and a Tacoma would easily have covered the cost of the Ranger repairs I had--and it wouldn't have spent weeks in the shop.

After having owned one Dodge and having driven several at work, I was sold on not buying a Dodge. Air leaks thru door handles (right by the steering wheel, blowing cold air on the hands in the winter), water leaks around the windshield (had an electrical fire in the dash because of this), poor starting (well, that WAS pre-fuel injection--Chrysler didn't know how to make a choke), multiple transmission repairs until the fleet manager thru it into reverse at 35 mph to insure we would get a new tranny rather than wait while they fixed the original for the 3rd time. They may have improved their body quality since those days, but there is one other consideration--Will Chrysler still be in business 5 years from now?

That's helpful knowing its the 05 that has the model change. Gives me a good starting point. Are there some engine models/years to avoid? I also like a manual especially in a 4 cylinder. Here in California we really don't worry about rust.
 
   / I need a new (used) truck #30  
Ah, yes, the corrosion problem. Note that the news release was just last month and they are covering vehicles built clear back in 1995. How many manufacturers would do that? In fact, 40 years ago, a rusted out 5 year old car wasn't unusual in the rust belt. I knew a guy in California who would buy a clean, rust free older car, a highly desired model, and drive it to the northeast and sell it for enough of a profit to pay for most of his trip, a trip he had to take anyway.

You can check out reliability & read reviews at Edmunds or Cartalk. But to my surprise, Edmunds reports the base models of the 2004 Dakota, Ranger and Chevy Colorado get the same reliability rating as the Tacoma--obviously unreliable reliability info!
 
   / I need a new (used) truck #31  
Rat; find yourself a second generation 12 valve Dodge Cumins 2500 with a good motor. Rebuild the steering and running gear and your good for quite a few years.:thumbsup:
 
   / I need a new (used) truck #32  
Ah, yes, the corrosion problem. Note that the news release was just last month and they are covering vehicles built clear back in 1995. How many manufacturers would do that? In fact, 40 years ago, a rusted out 5 year old car wasn't unusual in the rust belt. I knew a guy in California who would buy a clean, rust free older car, a highly desired model, and drive it to the northeast and sell it for enough of a profit to pay for most of his trip, a trip he had to take anyway.

You can check out reliability & read reviews at Edmunds or Cartalk. But to my surprise, Edmunds reports the base models of the 2004 Dakota, Ranger and Chevy Colorado get the same reliability rating as the Tacoma--obviously unreliable reliability info!

That press release was from two years ago, and the inspections have been extended through the 2004 models. We have a 2004 purchased in August '04 that recently passed the frame inspection. Although the rear bumper is starting deform/rust.
 
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Rat; find yourself a second generation 12 valve Dodge Cumins 2500 with a good motor. Rebuild the steering and running gear and your good for quite a few years.:thumbsup:


Yeah, MChalkey was hot on that one. :thumbsup:
 
   / I need a new (used) truck #34  
I had a 2nd gen dodge ram 1500 4x4 quadcab (1999). It was great when it ran. Had sensor problems, also the steering was horrible. I put about 4k into the steering before i just refused to do it anymore. This was the year that they took the jeep front ends and put them onto the trucks, bad move. I had a lot of lumberjack steering (going back and forth with the steering wheel as you drive). I ended up cash for clunkering it. I couldnt drive it that far, and there were bees in the wheel well. The wife got a vw out of it and i will be first in line for a small diesel truck when they get here.
If you are thinking of an older dodge, go to dodgetalk.com and talk to the folks there they are a good group.
 
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I had a 2nd gen dodge ram 1500 4x4 quadcab (1999). It was great when it ran. Had sensor problems, also the steering was horrible. I put about 4k into the steering before i just refused to do it anymore. This was the year that they took the jeep front ends and put them onto the trucks, bad move. I had a lot of lumberjack steering (going back and forth with the steering wheel as you drive). I ended up cash for clunkering it. I couldnt drive it that far, and there were bees in the wheel well. The wife got a vw out of it and i will be first in line for a small diesel truck when they get here.
If you are thinking of an older dodge, go to dodgetalk.com and talk to the folks there they are a good group.

I'm not (thinking of a older Dodge)
 
   / I need a new (used) truck #36  
Re: Date of press release, Oops! I guess I am living in the past. Another senior moment.

One more thing about my Rangers that I recalled yesterday, both of them leaked water around the windshield. Didn't get an electrical fire like I did with the Dodge, however. The '91 Ranger leaked when almost new and the dealer wasn't interested in fixing it--said I would have to leave it for a week or more. Never went back to that dealer for service...
 
   / I need a new (used) truck #37  
This is what _Rat_ asked:
Any advice on a truck, your experience on fuel economy versus what you thought you would get?

Reckon some of you lads are losing sight of the fuel economy requirement.
 

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