I am looking at this air compressor at Tractor Supply - Ingersol 2-stage

[aczlan]

That is an interesting question. The existing compressor is being left installed in the shop I am leaving, selling along with the home on five acres. It looks good setting there, it still works, is all plumbed in, I have had my use of it, I think it adds more value than its worth. New shop, new compressor for the next 25 years.

A new shop is an excellent reason to get a new compressor.

Aaron Z

 

[jimgerken]

I have narrowed the choices to two, the IR 2340L5-V (T30 design), or the Quincy 2V41C60VC. The IR is $200 cheaper than the Quincy. It appears that both are 3450 rpm motors, so I assume the noise level would be within a couple dB of each other. I understand the Quincy comes with a USA made Baldor motor, and I cannot find any info about the motor on the IR, so I must assume it is imported. Guys online seem to suggest that even the compressor on the Quincy is USA made. And of course the Quincy has a longer expected lifespan. The best prices I have found for these products is online, the IR at $1198, and the Quincy at $1400.
If any of the above is wrong, please point me in the right direction. Especially the motor speed thing. Noise output alone would sway me, and a 1750 motor driven compressor would definitely be quieter than a 3450, but I do not think at this point that either of these are 1750 rpm. And of course the price, if you know of a cheaper source for either. Thanks.

 

[Midniteoyl]

Right off the bat, the IR is $1130 at Sears.. Ingersoll Rand 60 Gallon Air Compressor, Vertical Tank, 5 HP, 2 Stage Pump - Tools - Air Compressors & Air Tools - Air Compressors

No shipping if you can have it shipped to a store, but there will be taxes..

And the pump is made in India, as far as I can tell. Of course, that might have changed.

 

[BukitCase]

Jim, I smell something a bit off on the IR you linked - Northern's q+a claims that motor rpm is 3450, and that pump rpm is 700 (which would be great) - problem is, they ALSO say that motor sheave is 6 inches.

In order for the pump to turn 700 with a 3450 rpm motor, the pump pulley would need to be 30 inches in diameter !!?!

I don't see that big a difference in the pics, IR themselves won't even tell you what the pump rpm is, but just the fact that the manufacturer themselves won't tell you would cause me to back away.

I'm now retired, but spent the vast majority of my life in tech fields and the last 35 years in heavy industrial instrumentation, several years running a maintenance crew - so my "BS filter" generally doesn't let me down. I personally would NOT buy from someone who won't tell me basic stuff like pump rpm.

If I were you (I'm obviously NOT, having spent twice your budget on my last compressor :laughing: ) I would stick with the Quincy (of the two you're considering) - For your stated uses, I think you'd be happier. Just my (fairly) educated opinion... Steve

 

[jimgerken]

Jim, I smell something a bit off on the IR you linked - Northern's q+a claims that motor rpm is 3450, and that pump rpm is 700 (which would be great) - problem is, they ALSO say that motor sheave is 6 inches.

In order for the pump to turn 700 with a 3450 rpm motor, the pump pulley would need to be 30 inches in diameter !!?!

I don't see that big a difference in the pics, IR themselves won't even tell you what the pump rpm is, but just the fact that the manufacturer themselves won't tell you would cause me to back away.

I'm now retired, but spent the vast majority of my life in tech fields and the last 35 years in heavy industrial instrumentation, several years running a maintenance crew - so my "BS filter" generally doesn't let me down. I personally would NOT buy from someone who won't tell me basic stuff like pump rpm.

If I were you (I'm obviously NOT, having spent twice your budget on my last compressor :laughing: ) I would stick with the Quincy (of the two you're considering) - For your stated uses, I think you'd be happier. Just my (fairly) educated opinion... Steve

Interesting discovery on the speed issue!
I wonder if Northern will discount the Quincy any further, or RAISE the price eventually. There is a $100 gift card given with $1000 spent offer on right now. Still, its a lot more than I had planned to spend.

I am going to try and get a look at these at the Northern Store in Burnsville later this week.

 

[BukitCase]

When you do, if you think about it measure the diameters of both pulleys (nearest inch is fine) - that will at least tell us what the REAL pump RPM is gonna be - the lower it is, the longer it's gonna last. (And the quieter it'll run)

Thing is, with a 3450 rpm motor they can't get a very low pump rpm without using a pretty small motor sheave, which in itself will shorten belt life (more internal stress from tighter turning radius) - if you could find out the TRUE pump rpm (can't change that very much, or the built in cooling fan that's part of the pulley wouldn't work) you might be able to (later on, if the motor goes out) replace it with a 1725 rpm motor and TWICE the diameter motor sheave.

That would at least improve SOME of the noise (not that your case would matter) and you'd likely never need to change the motor (or even belts) again.

All other things being equal (they're usually not) I would probably pick the one with ALL cast iron - like you, I've not been impressed with dissimilar metal construction where heat/cool cycles are a factor... Steve

 

[DXN1EL]

Does any one know if these are any good?

Belaire 216V 60 Gallon 175 PSI 5 HP Vertical Electric Air Compressor | eBay

 

[farmer2009]

Read that again. Title says its a 175psi unit. In the specs. it calls it a 165 max psi. Might want to clarify that all other facts are correct.

 

[kenmac]

Does any one know if these are any good?

Belaire 216V 60 Gallon 175 PSI 5 HP Vertical Electric Air Compressor | eBay

I can tell you these are good compressors. I've had mine for several yrs and have had no issues . I have/use a large glass bead cabinet and, never run out of air (25.25cfm@ 90psi)with this 1.Belaire Compressors 318VL 5 to 10 HP - Air Compressor. They have gone up in price..when I bought mine it was around 1K with shipping

This http://usamadeproducts.biz/air-compressors.html has them listed as being made in the USA

 

[Husaberg]

I have narrowed the choices to two, the IR 2340L5-V (T30 design), or the Quincy 2V41C60VC. The IR is $200 cheaper than the Quincy. It appears that both are 3450 rpm motors, so I assume the noise level would be within a couple dB of each other. I understand the Quincy comes with a USA made Baldor motor, and I cannot find any info about the motor on the IR, so I must assume it is imported. Guys online seem to suggest that even the compressor on the Quincy is USA made. And of course the Quincy has a longer expected lifespan. The best prices I have found for these products is online, the IR at $1198, and the Quincy at $1400.
If any of the above is wrong, please point me in the right direction. Especially the motor speed thing. Noise output alone would sway me, and a 1750 motor driven compressor would definitely be quieter than a 3450, but I do not think at this point that either of these are 1750 rpm. And of course the price, if you know of a cheaper source for either. Thanks.

Don't be so sure on the Quincy long life span. I bought one 14 years ago for the home shop and it has been a turd for just having a couple hundred hours of operation. 3 set of blown head gaskets and last year a reed valve broke off on the high pressure side and dropped into the cylinder and wedged itself between the piston and cylinder wall for while running. Quincy does not just sell the reed valves separate from the valve plate but at least it was only $160 for the assembly but then I had to buy head gaskets again at $31 each. But at least it pumps up slower now with groove cut into the cylinder wall.
As for the IR compressors I purchased one at work (10hp T-30). The compressor pump is made in India and the motor is a WEG made in Taiwan. The pump casting is porous cast iron and oil was weeping out of it shortly after start up. The fix from IR was to wash the weeping areas down with brakekleen and apply a wicking grade of Loctite to seal it up. It worked but really. Since then it has gone 2500hrs without a problem.
In my maintenance shop at work I purchased a 5hp/2stage Speedaire from Grainger 11 years ago and it has been flawless. I would buy again in a heartbeat.