I added a Prince RD522 to my MF 1528 and it is barely working.In fact It was to control a frail mower but it can now barely lift the FEL. Whats wrong

   / I added a Prince RD522 to my MF 1528 and it is barely working.In fact It was to control a frail mower but it can now barely lift the FEL. Whats wrong #1  

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I added a Prince RD522 to my MF 1528 and it is barely working.In fact It was to control a frail mower but it can now barely lift the FEL. Whats wrong
 
   / I added a Prince RD522 to my MF 1528 and it is barely working.In fact It was to control a frail mower but it can now barely lift the FEL. Whats wrong #2  
Plumbed wrong ?
 
   / I added a Prince RD522 to my MF 1528 and it is barely working.In fact It was to control a frail mower but it can now barely lift the FEL. Whats wrong #3  
Can you provide more details on how you installed this valve? Specially how it's connected to the system? A couple pictures may help too.

An RD522, rated at 25GPM, is an awful big valve for your tractor. You really want something rated around 10 GPM or so. This will provide much better fine control over that high GPM valve.
 
   / I added a Prince RD522 to my MF 1528 and it is barely working.In fact It was to control a frail mower but it can now barely lift the FEL. Whats wrong
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Can you provide more details on how you installed this valve? Specially how it's connected to the system? A couple pictures may help too.

An RD522, rated at 25GPM, is an awful big valve for your tractor. You really want something rated around 10 GPM or so. This will provide much better fine control over that high GPM valve.
 

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   / I added a Prince RD522 to my MF 1528 and it is barely working.In fact It was to control a frail mower but it can now barely lift the FEL. Whats wrong
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I hope this helps. I am really at a stand still.
 
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   / I added a Prince RD522 to my MF 1528 and it is barely working.In fact It was to control a frail mower but it can now barely lift the FEL. Whats wrong
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I did reposition the valve and switched two hoses but no change.
I will wait for your reply before I continue.
Thank you!
 
   / I added a Prince RD522 to my MF 1528 and it is barely working.In fact It was to control a frail mower but it can now barely lift the FEL. Whats wrong #8  
Do I see a “tee” fitting in both of the lines to the new valve? I belief MF1528 has fixed displacement pump so all valves must be connected in series. You need to connect power beyond of existing valve to pressure on new valve. Tank lines can be teed together.

I only see two hoses to the new valve so presume no power beyond on that valve.
 
   / I added a Prince RD522 to my MF 1528 and it is barely working.In fact It was to control a frail mower but it can now barely lift the FEL. Whats wrong
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Do I see a “tee” fitting in both of the lines to the new valve? I belief MF1528 has fixed displacement pump so all valves must be connected in series. You need to connect power beyond of existing valve to pressure on new valve. Tank lines can be teed together.

I only see two hoses to the new valve so presume no power beyond on that valve.
What do I do with the other line that is connected to the Tee of the power beyond?
 
   / I added a Prince RD522 to my MF 1528 and it is barely working.In fact It was to control a frail mower but it can now barely lift the FEL. Whats wrong #10  
You need to get rid of the tee on the existing power beyond fitting. You need a power beyond sleeve in the new valve (and yes, It's way too big for your application) and a third line from that valve for a sump return. Sump return is the ONLY place a tee can be used in this type of circuit. As oldnslo stated, all valves MUST be plumbed in series.
 
   / I added a Prince RD522 to my MF 1528 and it is barely working.In fact It was to control a frail mower but it can now barely lift the FEL. Whats wrong #11  
What do I do with the other line that is connected to the Tee of the power beyond?
Does your RD522 valve have the power beyond feature installed and operable? If yes then power beyond from factory valve connects to pressure on the Rd522. Power beyond of RD522 connects to the line that was on the factory valve. So the oil flows from factory valve through RD522 then to what ever function the factory power beyond was feeding. Only line that you can tee into are tank lines.

The RD522 should have three lines connected to it to operate as power beyond valve

Pressure, power beyond and tank that must connect directly to tank.
 
   / I added a Prince RD522 to my MF 1528 and it is barely working.In fact It was to control a frail mower but it can now barely lift the FEL. Whats wrong
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You need to get rid of the tee on the existing power beyond fitting. You need a power beyond sleeve in the new valve (and yes, It's way too big for your application) and a third line from that valve for a sump return. Sump return is the ONLY place a tee can be used in this type of circuit. As oldnslo stated, all valves MUST be plumbed in series.
Ok, so when I remove the tee at the power beyond where does the other line go or is it just capped off.
 
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See if this might help you out.
 

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You need to get rid of the tee on the existing power beyond fitting. You!
You need to get rid of the tee on the existing power beyond fitting. You need a power beyond sleeve in the new valve (and yes, It's way too big for your application) and a third line from that valve for a sump return. Sump return is the ONLY place a tee can be used in this type of circuit. As oldnslo stated, all valves MUST be plumbed in series.
Got it, I will try tomorrow.Thank you so much!
 
   / I added a Prince RD522 to my MF 1528 and it is barely working.In fact It was to control a frail mower but it can now barely lift the FEL. Whats wrong #15  
You need to revisit the entire plumbing package. Your second photo shows what appears to be a power beyond sleeve, so the line from that fitting probably leads to the three point lift system. Yes/no? If so, remove that tee (save it for later) and connect the pressure line to your new valve (the one you now have connected to a tee on the pressure side of the original valve) to that now vacant fitting. You will need a power beyond sleeve to fit your new valve (as shown in the attachment from Leejohn) and a hose from that goes to the line leading to three point. The line from the fitting you're now using as a return line from the new valve will connect to tractor sump. This is where your tee comes in. I'm guessing (because I can't see where it goes) the other fitting in your second photo is the sump return. If so, that fitting is where the tee needs to go and the existing return hose from the new valve will go there. I'm no good at adding and drawing diagrams so all I can do is explain things in English.

Here's the theory. Oil flow from the pump goes the inlet of the existing valve, flows through that and out the existing power beyond sleeve. From there it goes to the inlet of the new valve, flows through that and out the (not yet acquired and installed) power beyond sleeve and into the three point lift system. The sump return from both valves can be connected together anywhere and sent back into the tractor sump.

You may need to read through that a few times to get a handle on it, and you may need some different fittings and/or hoses to make it all work out.
 
   / I added a Prince RD522 to my MF 1528 and it is barely working.In fact It was to control a frail mower but it can now barely lift the FEL. Whats wrong
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I just wanted you'all to know that after making the changes you suggested all is working. You were right about the valve being to big. It is very jumpy, so I have ordered an 11 GPM with a 3rd port so I can add a hydraulic top link. Saturday is not the day to look for hydraulic parts. I went to several local stores-Tractor Supply and Advance Auto not in stock-Oreillys auto parts did have the parts I needed to make the changes just for your information. Again I can't thank you enough for the great advice!!!
 
   / I added a Prince RD522 to my MF 1528 and it is barely working.In fact It was to control a frail mower but it can now barely lift the FEL. Whats wrong
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Also putting the control on the left side was a poor decision. When new valve comes in I will arrange it on the right side.
 

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