Hydro problem/KL401 loader . . .

mark.r · May 29, 2008

dfkrug said:
It seems to me, MARK, that for the regen function to work, the FEL
valve joystick has to be moved. Does the KL401 have a self-leveling bucket?

No self-leveling bucket on the KL401.

Patches · May 29, 2008

The KL1231 loader on my 3054 does the same thing? I thought it might be air in the cylinders and was going to try bleeding them; now I don't have to, as it appears to be a common problem

mark.r · May 29, 2008

Patches said:
The KL1231 loader on my 3054 does the same thing? I thought it might be air in the cylinders and was going to try bleeding them; now I don't have to, as it appears to be a common problem

My dealer is literally right up the street from my house so at lunch I am going to go talk to them and see what their thought is. I doesn't seem normal to me. Should be a warranty fix in my opinion.

mark.r · May 30, 2008

Talk to two dealers and explained the issue and both said something sounds "off". I guess I'll take it to the dealer next week as much as HATE to do it. They end up keeping the tractor for like a week everytime I take it to them. Kind of hard to run a business without one of you main tools.

Patches · Jun 2, 2008

Post their answer to the problem, if you would . Used my 3054 today and it is still doing "it", although not consistantly

Hopefully, it's an easy fix, as mine is way out of warranty

JoelD · Jun 2, 2008

Patches said:
The KL1231 loader on my 3054 does the same thing? I thought it might be air in the cylinders and was going to try bleeding them; now I don't have to, as it appears to be a common problem

The system should be self bleeding, don't think you could end up with air in your cyls. or anywhere else for that matter.

someone please let me know if I am wrong.

Thanks,
Joel

JoelD · Jun 2, 2008

Not sure what you are experiencing. Can you shoot a video and possibly post on the web or, if coming to cookout, bring the video with you?

If you are dumping a load, the load can push the cyls down faster than the oil can recover, when this happens, there can be a pause for the oil to catch up. In other words, you dump a heavy load, then go to dump further, it takes a second for the bucket to react.

When you step into the bucket, do the pistons literally move in or out of the cyls?

Joel

contdevelop · Jun 2, 2008

From what i know and my experience abot hydraulics, just by working the cylinder the air is automatically bled out. I still need to look closer on my CK30 to see where the slack is. I didnt pay any attention to see if its the pins and bushings or the cylinder. IF the problem is hydraulic in nature it is probably somewhere in the valve body. I would like to hear what a dealer/ mechanic has to say on the problem.

mark.r · Jun 2, 2008

Patches said:
Post their answer to the problem, if you would . Used my 3054 today and it is still doing "it", although not consistantly Hopefully, it's an easy fix, as mine is way out of warranty

Ironically, I used it today to turn my manure pile and it didn't seem bad at all. When I was finished I parked the tractor back in the shed and had the bucket curled back with the cutting edge off the ground and the "heel" on the ground. I stood on the cutting edge and it would not budge. I jiggled the lever side to side to relive the pressure thinking that would "bring back the problem" but no dice. It only allowd the bucket to move just slight . . . what I would call within the tolerances of the normal play of the all the hinges/connection points/ brackets/etc. Go figure, I don't know what to think now.

JoelD · Jun 2, 2008

My thought is, for there to be a hydraulic problem bad enough that you could move by hand, you'd have not power to curl any kind of load.

I am thinking you are good.

Joel